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Old 05-30-2019, 06:49 PM   #31  
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Back off topic.

Captains get paid more to 1) taxi and 2) deal with the BS. The extra pay does not grant one super powers—not even to “mentor” first officers on every aspect of life. (Shout out to my homeboy, if you’re reading).

I do appreciate the retired Navy folks who, sitting in the right seat, not-so-subtly mention that they retired after 20-something years as a captain. Took you that long? Damn! I made captain in four years...in the militia...and then I quit!
Love the shout out.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:51 PM   #32  
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If being Capt is no big deal anymore, then why is the company expending valuable training time making their management guy an ER Capt way out of seniority? I’m sure his trips are bought off (since he could never hold it) and probably the FO’s trips too. And what kind of pilot would accept flying as a Capt so far out of seniority, when everyone knows it?
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:09 PM   #33  
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To try to get the thread back on topic....



It makes sense to me for someone in management to say they want a contact before amendable date.



I’m sure they are cognizant of Ed saying “no contract this year” + the anti-union/ buy an Xbox situation going on right now = bad optics for the company...especially if we don’t get a contact and the NMB gets involved.

Not necessarily a joke but kind of humorous...

**** always flows forward and to the left on an airplane.


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Old 05-30-2019, 08:01 PM   #34  
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His inferiority complex comes through loud and clear. I’m pretty sure if captains could have a no fly list the monkey would be on most of them.
I guess reading isn't your strong suit, eh? I don't feel inferior because I'm not. The CA job is not as hard as you're making it. Again, you literally just have to be here long enough and they literally just give it to you after passing a checkride.
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:25 PM   #35  
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I guess reading isn't your strong suit, eh? I don't feel inferior because I'm not. The CA job is not as hard as you're making it. Again, you literally just have to be here long enough and they literally just give it to you after passing a checkride.
And you get to be on the "Watch" list. You've probably never seen the monthly "Captains minute under schedule" sheet from Mecca.
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:26 PM   #36  
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This isn't about my ego. This is about the sensitive sallys who get all bent out of shape when former captains don't get their stripes taken off their coat or when junior management types get rated as Captain.

Newsflash, this isn't 1960. Being a Captain at Delta doesn't make you a God. It doesn't nor should it carry "significant weight" and the illusion of this "great authority" only exists because the anti-CRM culture still exists here.

The amount of times I've had to hear about Captains complaining they don't get the respect from their co-workers that their captains did when they were engineers is staggering. I've had captains make FAs cry during preflight because they were too deaf to hear the poor girl's question. Delta captains aren't special. They are paid more and rightfully so because they do have the responsibility to make some hard decisions. They aren't, however, infallible or supreme beings of aviation.
A lot of butt hurt going on here.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:19 PM   #37  
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I guess reading isn't your strong suit, eh? I don't feel inferior because I'm not. The CA job is not as hard as you're making it. Again, you literally just have to be here long enough and they literally just give it to you after passing a checkride.
I guess it depends on personal philosophy. I tend to lean towards your outlook on the Captain/First Officer relationship. Some guys need that superiority and level of accomplishment in order to feel personal gratification. You don’t and neither do I but some guys require that. Captains and First Officers are just cogs in the system, each cog has a purpose.

It’s similar to the relationship between being a pilot and being a “Delta pilot”. “Through these doors walk the best pilots in the world” is the banner in the JFK crew room....compared to who, Qantas? Don’t get me wrong, Delta is my dream job but we aren’t even close.

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Old 05-30-2019, 11:18 PM   #38  
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If being Capt is no big deal anymore, then why is the company expending valuable training time making their management guy an ER Capt way out of seniority? I’m sure his trips are bought off (since he could never hold it) and probably the FO’s trips too. And what kind of pilot would accept flying as a Capt so far out of seniority, when everyone knows it?
Seniority list shows him as an ER B.
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Old 05-31-2019, 04:23 AM   #39  
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Seniority list shows him as an ER B.

That’s what the list says, but when he flies, which is rare, it’s as an A and the company requires him to fly with a LCA (so I’ve heard). That’s all about liability supposedly. The company knows the optics of the situation should he be operating a flight that bent metal.


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And you get to be on the "Watch" list. You've probably never seen the monthly "Captains minute under schedule" sheet from Mecca.
This is interesting - can you elaborate?
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