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You should. Most people at this airline have been an airline captain. There are many FOs that have been a Captain at Delta. There are many FOs that have more experience and skills than Captains they fly with. I know it hurts your fragile egos, but the only thing being a CA gets you is a higher pay rate and the right to be an authority on a particular flight. It is not earned in any way other than breathing long enough until enough people ahead of you retire.
It is merely a symbolic title and the fact that SO many people get their panties in a wad over a manager several steps up the chain having that title proves that most airline pilots are nothing more than sensitive babies.
It is merely a symbolic title and the fact that SO many people get their panties in a wad over a manager several steps up the chain having that title proves that most airline pilots are nothing more than sensitive babies.
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 314
You should. Most people at this airline have been an airline captain. There are many FOs that have been a Captain at Delta. There are many FOs that have more experience and skills than Captains they fly with. I know it hurts your fragile egos, but the only thing being a CA gets you is a higher pay rate and the right to be an authority on a particular flight. It is not earned in any way other than breathing long enough until enough people ahead of you retire.
It is merely a symbolic title and the fact that SO many people get their panties in a wad over a manager several steps up the chain having that title proves that most airline pilots are nothing more than sensitive babies.
It is merely a symbolic title and the fact that SO many people get their panties in a wad over a manager several steps up the chain having that title proves that most airline pilots are nothing more than sensitive babies.
In essence I view myself and my coworkers in the cockpit as “pilots.” Sure, captains have captain duties and first officers have first officer duties. Just about anyone over the two year mark here could be “captain” if they want to give up their QOL and make a few extra bucks.
For some of us it’s a job title and pay raise, for others it’s their way of life. The former tends to be the more enjoyable ones to work with for what it’s worth.
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If you work in certain airlines. But at Delta, American and United.... just to name a few, Captain’s authority still means a lot and carries significant weight. Now if you are some snowflake trying to start a wizzing match then go elsewhere. If you are a disgruntled First Officer looking at a loooong upgrade somewhere and think you deserve it now... I can’t help you or your ego. Part of professionalism is knowing your part and the discipline that goes along with it. While you point out that there are some bad Captains, I’d also point out that those bad Captains were most likely bad First Officers.
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#19
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Posts: 648
If you work in certain airlines. But at Delta, American and United.... just to name a few, Captain’s authority still means a lot and carries significant weight. Now if you are some snowflake trying to start a wizzing match then go elsewhere. If you are a disgruntled First Officer looking at a loooong upgrade somewhere and think you deserve it now... I can’t help you or your ego. Part of professionalism is knowing your part and the discipline that goes along with it. While you point out that there are some bad Captains, I’d also point out that those bad Captains were most likely bad First Officers.
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Newsflash, this isn't 1960. Being a Captain at Delta doesn't make you a God. It doesn't nor should it carry "significant weight" and the illusion of this "great authority" only exists because the anti-CRM culture still exists here.
The amount of times I've had to hear about Captains complaining they don't get the respect from their co-workers that their captains did when they were engineers is staggering. I've had captains make FAs cry during preflight because they were too deaf to hear the poor girl's question. Delta captains aren't special. They are paid more and rightfully so because they do have the responsibility to make some hard decisions. They aren't, however, infallible or supreme beings of aviation.
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