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gzsg 05-30-2019 01:38 AM

C2019 Completed By The Amendable Date
 
Captain Gumm’s May 29th weekly update is definitely worth a read.

A common goal with ALPA of completing C2019 by the amendable date of 12/31/19.

Negotiating 5 of the next 8 weeks.

In my opinion this is a very positive shift in management’s strategy.

The gap between Delta vs American and United in terms of quality transportation companies is widening by the week. Given the current level of profitability at Delta plus the upcoming $7 Billion annually in 36 months from the recent American Express deal, it makes perfect sense to share this success with the Delta pilots.

I admire Captain Gumm’s proactive leadership. We all know negotiations are never a walk in the park. That said, dragging things out for years is bad for business. It harms the culture and crushes morale.

The tireless preparation by our negotiating committee, admin and MEC has us well prepared for success. We couldn’t be in better hands.

sailingfun 05-30-2019 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2828633)
Captain Gumm’s May 29th weekly update is definitely worth a read.

A common goal with ALPA of completing C2019 by the amendable date of 12/31/19.

Negotiating 5 of the next 8 weeks.

In my opinion this is a very positive shift in management’s strategy.

The gap between Delta vs American and United in terms of quality transportation companies is widening by the week. Given the current level of profitability at Delta plus the upcoming $7 Billion annually in 36 months from the recent American Express deal, it makes perfect sense to share this success with the Delta pilots.

I admire Captain Gumm’s proactive leadership. We all know negotiations are never a walk in the park. That said, dragging things out for years is bad for business. It harms the culture and crushes morale.

The tireless preparation by our negotiating committee, admin and MEC has us well prepared for success. We couldn’t be in better hands.

There you go with the 7 billion from AMex again. Please explain how much of that is above today’s levels and of that increase in revenue how much the most optimistic forcasts will have it adding to the bottom line as profit.
This is getting to be like your fuel discussions where over and over again you took the wholesale price of jet fuel and compared it to the retail price saying Delta was saving billions.
Besides you already stated you will be happy with only 700 million in contract improvements. That will fund a total of about 16% in raises and zero quality of life improvements. I want a bit more!

DWC CAP10 USAF 05-30-2019 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2828647)
There you go with the 7 billion from AMex again. Please explain how much of that is above todayís levels and of that increase in revenue how much the most optimistic forcasts will have it adding to the bottom line as profit.

When the new AMEX deal was announced, I believe it stated that we currently get around $3.5B from Amex, so $7B would be double.

sailingfun 05-30-2019 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2828662)
When the new AMEX deal was announced, I believe it stated that we currently get around $3.5B from Amex, so $7B would be double.

Thatís basically the correct number. Revenue will rise 3.5 to 3.6 billion if Delta meets their projection. Several analysts have called that number into question and asked Delta for specifics on how they will achieve that. Delta declined to provide answers. If the do hit the most optimistic profit margins on 3.6 billion we could see 1.8 billion in increased profit. Keep in mind Delta also predicted we would be above 10 million in profit in 2018.

Scoop 05-30-2019 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2828686)
Thatís basically the correct number. Revenue will rise 3.5 to 3.6 billion if Delta meets their projection. Several analysts have called that number into question and asked Delta for specifics on how they will achieve that. Delta declined to provide answers. If the do hit the most optimistic profit margins on 3.6 billion we could see 1.8 billion in increased profit. Keep in mind Delta also predicted we would be above 10 million in profit in 2018.


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Fredturbo 05-30-2019 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2828633)
Captain Gummís May 29th weekly update is definitely worth a read.

A common goal with ALPA of completing C2019 by the amendable date of 12/31/19.

Negotiating 5 of the next 8 weeks.

In my opinion this is a very positive shift in managementís strategy.

The gap between Delta vs American and United in terms of quality transportation companies is widening by the week. Given the current level of profitability at Delta plus the upcoming $7 Billion annually in 36 months from the recent American Express deal, it makes perfect sense to share this success with the Delta pilots.

I admire Captain Gummís proactive leadership. We all know negotiations are never a walk in the park. That said, dragging things out for years is bad for business. It harms the culture and crushes morale.

The tireless preparation by our negotiating committee, admin and MEC has us well prepared for success. We couldnít be in better hands.

Good boy, good boy. Pat, pat, pat.....How about you roll over and let Uncle Clark scratch your belly.

Sniper66 05-30-2019 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2828633)
Captain Gumm’s May 29th weekly update is definitely worth a read.

A common goal with ALPA of completing C2019 by the amendable date of 12/31/19.

Negotiating 5 of the next 8 weeks.

In my opinion this is a very positive shift in management’s strategy.

The gap between Delta vs American and United in terms of quality transportation companies is widening by the week. Given the current level of profitability at Delta plus the upcoming $7 Billion annually in 36 months from the recent American Express deal, it makes perfect sense to share this success with the Delta pilots.

I admire Captain Gumm’s proactive leadership. We all know negotiations are never a walk in the park. That said, dragging things out for years is bad for business. It harms the culture and crushes morale.

The tireless preparation by our negotiating committee, admin and MEC has us well prepared for success. We couldn’t be in better hands.






Not following management as much as you do
But
Is Gumm a captain ?

DALMD88FO 05-30-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 2828817)
Not following management as much as you do
But
Is Gumm a captain ?

As a Nov 16 hire I don't think so but management pilots live in a different world when it comes to aircraft for instance Joe K being a 777 Capt.

ChecklistMonkey 05-30-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 2828817)
Not following management as much as you do
But
Is Gumm a captain ?

I mean, we all understand that "captain" is generally a meaningless title, especially considering it requires no real additional skills and only two days of additional training over the course of a 35 year career, right?

Klondike Bear 05-30-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2828885)
I mean, we all understand that "captain" is generally a meaningless title, especially considering it requires no real additional skills and only two days of additional training over the course of a 35 year career, right?

Oh boy this should be good!!! 🍿🤣


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