A330 & a350
06-16-2019, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8er1550
What about the more junior fleets? What are the upgrade times for those for prospective new hires today?
Who knows what will happen if the retirement wave ever actually shows up.
06-17-2019, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bergman
Looks like about 4 years for 220 or 717 Captain, 5-6 years for 320 and 737 all in NYC. Other than that, more like 10-15 years on most fleets/based.
Who knows what will happen if the retirement wave ever actually shows up.
Who knows what will happen if the retirement wave ever actually shows up.
Thanks for the response. Yeah retirement in the future will definitely change things up.
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06-17-2019, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bergman
Who knows what will happen if the retirement wave ever actually shows up.
06-17-2019, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluto
You mean that wave everybody's been riding for the last few years? I mean, we do know that over 500 of our pilots turn 65 next year. What exactly were you hoping for?
06-17-2019, 01:26 PM
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With mandatory retirements, it's pretty easy to calculate your ballpark seniority over the coming years. NB captain can be held at nearly all bases/fleets at around 55-60% (8k-8.5k) system seniority level, with many jr CA spots up into the 70% range (10.5k). What that'd mean to a newbie is you'll need 4k-6k retirements. At the rate of mandatory retirements, 70% will be reached in 2025, 60% in 2028. With unplanned retirements, maybe a year earlier. This assumes the pilot group size stays static at 14.5k.
Stop listening to how many years it took for a current CA. That's what it was for their DOH, not yours.
Stop listening to how many years it took for a current CA. That's what it was for their DOH, not yours.
06-17-2019, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I wondered the same thing. We are seeing record advancement and guys are still not happy.
06-17-2019, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I wondered the same thing. We are seeing record advancement and guys are still not happy.
I fly with plenty of captains who have been here 20ish years and they can barely hold a decent line in ATL. There have been retirements, but it seems like the top of the seniority list has been pretty static. It does look like that’s finally changing, with over 500 777/350/330/765 CAs currently 62 or older.
06-18-2019, 10:29 AM
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06-18-2019, 10:37 AM
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And speaking of 330-900s...
https://www.marketwatch.com/press-re...18?siteid=nbkh
Who’s orders were these really?
https://www.marketwatch.com/press-re...18?siteid=nbkh
Who’s orders were these really?
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