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Old 08-13-2019, 09:41 AM
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Where is a moderator when you need one ?......oh...wait a minute....hailing 80kts

Guess it's ok with that smiley face? kudos on this post ...at least this time you didn't accuse Sailing of lying as you so often do, more of an insinuation

Note....see the smiley face? That makes it all ok...right?
I don’t think he ever lies. He does double down on just horrible information frequently, though.
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:49 AM
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Well, I know this is not a popular opinion to express on the forum( for the 10-15 compulsive posters) but I feel that Sailing provides a lot of valuable data and insight...most all of it fairly accurate

If he quit posting, it would be a loss for APC...IMHO
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:58 AM
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Yes it would.

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Old 08-13-2019, 10:01 AM
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Well, I know this is not a popular opinion to express on the forum( for the 10-15 compulsive posters) but I feel that Sailing provides a lot of valuable data and insight...most all of it fairly accurate

If he quit posting, it would be a loss for APC...IMHO
He does provide some valuable information which would be a loss. I wish he would acknowledge his critical errors and not double down on them, though.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers View Post
Well, I know this is not a popular opinion to express on the forum( for the 10-15 compulsive posters) but I feel that Sailing provides a lot of valuable data and insight...most all of it fairly accurate

If he quit posting, it would be a loss for APC...IMHO

I agree..Sailing always has good gouge and I enjoy reading his posts. APC has lost a lot of moderate voices...Sinkrate, Tacobell, and others...cause life's too short to continuously argue on an anonymous forum..so we lose good guys and good gouge.

APC's loss..
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:04 AM
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Where’s sailing to tell us that 12,000 GS duty periods is nothing compared to the early 2000’s?
Not defending the math as I have no idea what the numbers were, but we were canceling a LOT of flights back then for lack of crews. We were also only around 10,000 pilots, so comparing GS duty periods without that context isn’t actually telling the whole story either.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:07 AM
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Not defending the math as I have no idea what the numbers were, but we were canceling a LOT of flights back then for lack of crews. We were also only around 10,000 pilots, so comparing GS duty periods without that context isn’t actually telling the whole story either.
The operation has gotten VERY creative on how to not cancel flights. It’s brilliant compared to the other airlines. It may be 24 hours late, but dangit, it’s still going.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:14 AM
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Where’s sailing to tell us that 12,000 GS duty periods is nothing compared to the early 2000’s?
12,203 GS, 150 IAs, 4 GSWC, nope, no staffing issue here.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RonRicco View Post
Not defending the math as I have no idea what the numbers were, but we were canceling a LOT of flights back then for lack of crews. We were also only around 10,000 pilots, so comparing GS duty periods without that context isn’t actually telling the whole story either.
Btw, tunes found the GS numbers back then, too... it was about 5% of what we’re running now.
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:14 AM
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I wonder what that number would be if you took out all the GS that are being flown on X days? From what I've seen, the wide body FO's on GS's get them on their X days......they are creative in bidding and avoid flying on their on call days. No matter how you slice it or dice it....what's the problem with GS's, any of them?


GS are VOLUNTARY....to me , the only important number is IA....those are guys that haven't chosen to fly, but management forced them to.....the 12,000 + GS are essentially 12,000 reasons to sing the blessings of managements choice on staffing. Can I get a Hallelujah!!!!

All any pilot can block in a year is 1000 hrs....that is 83 hours a month....so 3x4 day trips at 26 hrs per trip=72 hrs in 12 days...and throw in another 2 day...puts you at 14 days and 83 hours. You tell any military pilot that he only has to work 14 days a month and they would be ecstatic....(prolly the RJ guys too)

Any narrow body capt that is worn out....it's kinda your choice...we do have positions called WB FO....they do the international flying...you know the 1 leg stuff over the pond...nap for 4-5 hours, fly 4-5 hours....10-14 hrs block with 1/2 being dozing for $$$$.
Even 75/76 trips are fairly benign.

The pilots with a real beef are the "new" guys that get forced into NB FO small planes with multiple legs and no bidding power. They didn't choose their lot in life....well... other than filling out an application, going to an interview, accepting the job and then completing training (still bet this summer of discontent is better than where they came from)

But don't let me put a damper on pilot's favorite past time....gotta run, phone's ringing.....ARCOS on the line offering my 8th GS.....

Damn...management makes me work to hard!!!!
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