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#371
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A little touchy?
Is that dreadful 18 day Delta schedule because you are on reserve, or is that actual trips flying?
OBTW....last month I had 0 days of work or on call....No vacation or sick
The month before that I only worked 3 days....No vacation
Life is blissful
I can play your game of just enough information to make this sound like freakin' Utopia.....whereas you like to play the opposite side of the table....it's all about how Delta makes your life suck.
Although, what I stated as my last 2 months is entirely true, it's not the whole story. The diff between you and me is I don't intentionally mislead are or parse the info to try to make a point. You on the other hand.....
Is that dreadful 18 day Delta schedule because you are on reserve, or is that actual trips flying?
OBTW....last month I had 0 days of work or on call....No vacation or sick
The month before that I only worked 3 days....No vacation
Life is blissful
I can play your game of just enough information to make this sound like freakin' Utopia.....whereas you like to play the opposite side of the table....it's all about how Delta makes your life suck.
Although, what I stated as my last 2 months is entirely true, it's not the whole story. The diff between you and me is I don't intentionally mislead are or parse the info to try to make a point. You on the other hand.....
Y'all probably got more in common than you think
#372
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Also .....that was tongue in cheek about my 8th GS....One can always dream....I would love to get just 1
And about the hours per trip.....I was assured a few months ago when discussing how our vacation sucks ... guys on here told me that that's what they get for 4 day trips....thought it sounded high on the timee...tried to flesh it out....but you can guess how that went
#373
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Perhaps I was alone; I wasn't cheering on the $millions enjoyed by a fortunate few. I was lamenting the wasted opportunity for many more 350 captains and first officers, along with the trickle-down movement from which we all could have benefitted.
#374
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If a holiday fell on that Tuesday or Thursday.....did you get a second one.....also for free?
You wanted more Buck humor....so there it is....no extra charge
So....are those 18 days because you are on reserve? I'm sure you didn't come here from your RJ gig without an understanding about the effects of reg/res....senior/junior....new hire/longer than Moses....
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#375
Not doubting you but, is that normal? Not being from the RJ world but I have a hard time believing that model would survive.
For perspective could you elaborate.
Did you have any benefits?
Are you on your initial plane and position since being hired?
You flew RJ's, worked 10-11 days a month and made____$ ?
Flying for delta and working 14 days a month you make______$ ?
Did you have to resign your seniority number? Maybe it's not too late
For perspective could you elaborate.
Did you have any benefits?
Are you on your initial plane and position since being hired?
You flew RJ's, worked 10-11 days a month and made____$ ?
Flying for delta and working 14 days a month you make______$ ?
Did you have to resign your seniority number? Maybe it's not too late
#376
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Were those benefits a free kick in the nuts....Tuesday's AND Thursday's, rain or shine?
If a holiday fell on that Tuesday or Thursday.....did you get a second one.....also for free?
You wanted more Buck humor....so there it is....no extra charge
So....are those 18 days because you are on reserve? I'm sure you didn't come here from your RJ gig without an understanding about the effects of reg/res....senior/junior....new hire/longer than Moses....
If a holiday fell on that Tuesday or Thursday.....did you get a second one.....also for free?
You wanted more Buck humor....so there it is....no extra charge
So....are those 18 days because you are on reserve? I'm sure you didn't come here from your RJ gig without an understanding about the effects of reg/res....senior/junior....new hire/longer than Moses....
I understand the system, I understood the system before I came here. I can look at line awards for other pilots and see what they got so I can reference more than just my line.
As for your other post, I never said that Delta is making my life suck, those were your words. It did add that dramatic buck flair to your post though.
#377
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That is what you are trying to get me to believe
Where was that since I'd like to fact check it......I'm certain you wouldn't try to mislead anyone
#378
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We are negotiating a whole contract....very few data points are isolated. Most "gets" for one group are paid (or at least no gain)for by another section of the pilot group (straight line % increases in pay is the biggest outlier)
For example the simple proposal of greater DC contribution....sounds easy-peasy right?
Well, if you hit the 415c limit....you don't get PS on that DC excess....thus young guys are happy....old guys are not "just break even", they actually lose money
#379
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No, the sophomoric premise is that you can take an isolated data point(especially one that appears to be massaged dreadfully) and act like it is not isolated and thus, totally achievable
We are negotiating a whole contract....very few data points are isolated. Most "gets" for one group are paid (or at least no gain)for by another section of the pilot group (straight line % increases in pay is the biggest outlier)
For example the simple proposal of greater DC contribution....sounds easy-peasy right?
Well, if you hit the 415c limit....you don't get PS on that DC excess....thus young guys are happy....old guys are not "just break even", they actually lose money
We are negotiating a whole contract....very few data points are isolated. Most "gets" for one group are paid (or at least no gain)for by another section of the pilot group (straight line % increases in pay is the biggest outlier)
For example the simple proposal of greater DC contribution....sounds easy-peasy right?
Well, if you hit the 415c limit....you don't get PS on that DC excess....thus young guys are happy....old guys are not "just break even", they actually lose money
Now during a bankruptcy, which show of hands all of us have been through, i know I have, theres a contraction of the contract and then zero sum choices get made after taking a big hit.
#380
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I was like the number 5 of 180 FOs in NYC at Endeavor before I came here. I was mostly on military leave, but I remember my few full schedule months were generally three four day trips, twelve days total. They would credit about 78-80 hours. This was about two years ago.
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