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Jiggawatt 07-28-2019 01:04 PM

Open time disappearing
 
I was monitoring open time for LAX717B, hoping to pick up an out-of-base GS. As of yesterday and into this morning there were five trips in open time, from 2 to 4 days in length, with zero reserves available. This morning they started disappearing. They are all gone now, with nothing showing in Daily Trip Coverage. There is one new trip that showed up in open time, and it subsequently went to a GS. Still nothing for the original five trips. Where did all that flying go? Reroutes? Is this normal? Seems like when I’ve looked before, you can see a trip appear in open time, then see it in coverage later.

Rooster435 07-28-2019 01:06 PM

They could have covered with reroutes but more likely is they broke them up and moved to other bases.

Just looked at trip coverage in Atl. Looks like several of them ended up there.

3 green 07-28-2019 01:14 PM

They probably went to out of base greenslips or whiteslips. If they pulled them for reroutes that would be illegal since the trips were known about more than 14 hours out. If I were you, I would check into it. I do know a lot of illegal reroutes go out especially when they are short in that category, but most of the time no one knows they are illegally rerouted. I think ALPA needs to step up audits in this area.

waldo135 07-28-2019 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 2860880)
They probably went to out of base greenslips or whiteslips. If they pulled them for reroutes that would be illegal since the trips were known about more than 14 hours out. If I were you, I would check into it. I do know a lot of illegal reroutes go out especially when they are short in that category, but most of the time no one knows they are illegally rerouted. I think ALPA needs to step up audits in this area.

If they went out of base green or white, they have to be in the coverage for LAX. If I were to guess, they got covered by out of base reserves. That would show up in the coverage for the base that covered it. Or...CS illegally gave it as a GS or WS to another base.

huntingtonbeach 07-28-2019 02:00 PM

They covered it with ATL717B reserves

Jiggawatt 07-28-2019 02:10 PM

Thanks all. Looks like they went to out of base reserves (ATL). I wasn’t aware that they would show in another base’s coverage.

3 green 07-28-2019 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 2860884)
If they went out of base green or white, they have to be in the coverage for LAX. If I were to guess, they got covered by out of base reserves. That would show up in the coverage for the base that covered it. Or...CS illegally gave it as a GS or WS to another base.

Correct. I forgot they show out of base ws and gs on the trips daily coverage city..I figured they went to out of base pilots though..Reserve.

BobZ 07-28-2019 04:24 PM

Hmm. I wuda guessed it was dissapearing ink.

Rooster435 07-29-2019 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 2860880)
They probably went to out of base greenslips or whiteslips. If they pulled them for reroutes that would be illegal since the trips were known about more than 14 hours out. If I were you, I would check into it. I do know a lot of illegal reroutes go out especially when they are short in that category, but most of the time no one knows they are illegally rerouted. I think ALPA needs to step up audits in this area.

It’s not illegal to reroute but they are required to follow the trip coverage sequence. Reroute is on the sequence, below GS but above GSWC.

flightbag 07-29-2019 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by huntingtonbeach (Post 2860907)
They covered it with ATL717B reserves

And that, boys and girls, is why they have reserves!

full of luv 07-29-2019 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by flightbag (Post 2861184)
And that, boys and girls, is why they have reserves!

Absolutely, anyone who's bid reserves on purpose knows that you're not safe (from work) when your base is covered, you have to consider all bases with a like type.

tennisguru 07-29-2019 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2861224)
Absolutely, anyone who's bid reserves on purpose knows that you're not safe (from work) when your base is covered, you have to consider all bases with a like type.

Not a problem on the 88... :D

Iceberg 07-29-2019 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2861258)
Not a problem on the 88... :D

Cuz it’s never fully covered?

Rotide 07-29-2019 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 2861599)
Cuz it’s never fully covered?

Because there’s only ATL

Scoop 07-30-2019 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by Rotide (Post 2861660)
Because there’s only ATL


Yes, Someone once said "There can be only one!" Who can name the movie?

Scoop

Herkflyr 07-30-2019 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 2861702)
Yes, Someone once said "There can be only one!" Who can name the movie?

Scoop

Highlander?

Scoop 07-30-2019 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2861720)
Highlander?

You Sir are correct! :D

Iceberg 07-30-2019 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Rotide (Post 2861660)
Because there’s only ATL

It was TIC. I knew that, just have heard the stories of continuous reroutes on the fleet.


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