Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2866718)

uh huh. We have 2 A-350s coming. That's it. You are delusional if you think there will be any more.



The 330s are a mix of some replacement and modest growth. They also won't have the capability of more long range aircraft, and when the 77s die... what will replace them? I'll betcha a cold drink it ain't gonna be anything in Delta livery.



I don't deny that NRT was going down. But what sealed the deal for me was when Mr Bastian was asked in a LCP meeting about a year ago about all those cities in China that Mr Anderson talked about 'us flying to'... and without missing a beat... he replied that those would be on our JV partners.

Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 2865122)

You are perfectly correct, Delta knows how to make money. Everyone knows this, just as everyone knows you love absolutely everything about the company and can’t ever bring yourself to be critical of their actions. We know you rock the uniform and are extremely proud of the company and everything they have ever done. Indisputable and absolutely nothing wrong with this.

Delta has never been an international airline. They operate internationally but the name recognition isn’t anywhere close to United or American. Our leaders are fine with this because internationally we are known as Korean, KLM, Air France and Aero Mexico.

The only places this isn’t true are the nations we can’t score a joint venture, like Japan. That’s why we actually have flights there. Delta merged with a company that had the largest North American presence in Asia and they have basically farmed out all of that flying.

This business plan makes money but our business model isn’t much different than that of Alaska Airlines. We just have a few novelty international destinations, just to say we do. You think we are going to start a bunch of Asia flying once the customs facility opens? We can’t even make a single Hong Kong flight work a day, United does four and Cathay took up our slack immediately. Why? Because they are international airlines and desire an organic worldwide network and we don’t.

Again, nothing wrong with any of this but you can’t make Delta out to be an international airline. We use other companies name recognition, unless we can’t. This has always been the way things work at Delta and is not likely to change. Some guys are just frustrated watching our collective company become domestic.....again.

Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2866757)

I'll take that cold drink bet.

777s will be replaced by another A350 order

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Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2866274)

I don't think passengers can fly direct to more than two of those from DTW. My hunch is that UAL passengers flying out of ORD have many more direct flight options. And compared to DAL international destinations out of SLC, I suspect UAL has many more out of DEN.

Miles over the Atlantic matter. Our balance sheet matters. Our profit sharing matters. Our NPS scores matter. All of the these are reasons I'm thrilled to be with Delta right now. But complaints about our organic international route structure aren't irrelevant. Plenty of folks don't want to connect in ATL, NYC, LAX, AMS or CDG, and they would prefer to stay on Delta metal. I know that's true for my own NRSA travel and for my friends' business and leisure travel.

Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2866757)

I'll take that cold drink bet.

777s will be replaced by another A350 order

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Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 2866800)

Just off the top of my head, we fly from DTW to LHR, AMS, CDG, MUC, FCO, and FRA.

Not a ton, but more than 2

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2866802)

777’s are not going anywhere soon. They are putting millions into a complete interior remake. The 10 deferred A350’s will either be delivered or converted to A330-900’s. Either way 45 widebodies are coming fast. There are currently no plans to park more than 6 7ER’s as those 45 aircraft arrive. Currently the plan is to take the 10 additional A350’s. The increased gross weight A330-900 which we will be getting after the 2020 deliveries is a extremely capable aircraft with range approaching the A350. It will handle almost anything from LAX or SEA to the orient. It even has capability from the eastern US to the orient.
We are also discussing the two remaining WOW A330-300 and the two WOW A330-900’s already in production.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2866802)

777’s are not going anywhere soon. They are putting millions into a complete interior remake. The 10 deferred A350’s will either be delivered or converted to A330-900’s. Either way 45 widebodies are coming fast. There are currently no plans to park more than 6 7ER’s as those 45 aircraft arrive. Currently the plan is to take the 10 additional A350’s. The increased gross weight A330-900 which we will be getting after the 2020 deliveries is a extremely capable aircraft with range approaching the A350. It will handle almost anything from LAX or SEA to the orient. It even has capability from the eastern US to the orient.
We are also discussing the two remaining WOW A330-300 and the two WOW A330-900’s already in production.

Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 2866919)

Source on the WOW aircraft.

Originally Posted by freightdogg (Post 2866911)

I hope so. The current advertised range on the Delta configured 330-NEO is less than that of the 767ER.