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Old 08-02-2019, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy View Post
How'd that work out of AA? Delta still has more flights in and out of Japan and asia in general.
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:57 AM
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But adding 5 US-HND flights, plus ICN-MNL. The value of NRT diminished precipitously ever since Japan allowed int'l flights out of HND. Would be nice if we could move our beyond flights to HND, too, but Japan won't let us.
I know the announcement stated ICN-MNL service, but it was sufficiently vague. Who will fly the route? Us or Korean (perhaps they fly it already and just a quick click of a keyboard makes it DL service too). Do we have route authority, or is it even attainable? If so, would we really dedicate an aircraft to fly back and forth? An A350 seems like a lot of airplane for that, or would we just drop off a 757 or 767 in ICN and DH crews? Either sounds costly, and a seemingly rational justification to farm it out. Whatever the case, eliminating NRT is negative news for Delta pilots!
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Originally Posted by zippinbye View Post
I know the announcement stated ICN-MNL service, but it was sufficiently vague. Who will fly the route? Us or Korean (perhaps they fly it already and just a quick click of a keyboard makes it DL service too). Do we have route authority, or is it even attainable? If so, would we really dedicate an aircraft to fly back and forth? An A350 seems like a lot of airplane for that, or would we just drop off a 757 or 767 in ICN and DH crews? Either sounds costly, and a seemingly rational justification to farm it out. Whatever the case, eliminating NRT is negative news for Delta pilots!
the announcement stated that the flight was to be delta metal
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
the announcement stated that the flight was to be delta metal
Not to be cynical but that could change very quickly....

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
Not to be cynical but that could change very quickly....

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It could, but the announcement wasn’t vague
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Didn't we give up Narita slots as a form of scope protection a while ago? What value did we receive in return?

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Old 08-02-2019, 11:24 AM
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When did we get Korean 5th freedom rights?
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Old 08-02-2019, 11:50 AM
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When did we get Korean 5th freedom rights?
As I understand it, South Korea and The Philippines have a bilateral air service agreement that allows an “open skies” type of arrangement.

One exception is that there is a weekly seat cap on flights between South Korea and MNL (20,000 weekly seats is the number I’ve seen). Korean Air wants more service but has hit the ceiling on their share of the weekly limit, so we are adding the service on our own metal and KE will codeshare.

Win win.
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Originally Posted by zippinbye View Post
I know the announcement stated ICN-MNL service, but it was sufficiently vague. Who will fly the route? Us or Korean (perhaps they fly it already and just a quick click of a keyboard makes it DL service too). Do we have route authority, or is it even attainable? If so, would we really dedicate an aircraft to fly back and forth? An A350 seems like a lot of airplane for that, or would we just drop off a 757 or 767 in ICN and DH crews? Either sounds costly, and a seemingly rational justification to farm it out. Whatever the case, eliminating NRT is negative news for Delta pilots!
757/767 DH is unlikely. Using an A330 that flies US-ICN-MNL is more likely. Much like they did with US-NRT-Asia or US-HNL-Japan in the 7ER category.
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ICN-MNL signals the beginning of the restructured Pacific Network. Seattle International Customs Facility will be completed in 2020 enabling significant international expansion out of SEA. LAX terminal will be not too far behind SEA. More good news is coming. Exciting times at the Widget

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