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Old 08-07-2019, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Isn't that like putting a turbine engine on a Cessna 152?
Not even close. A better comparison would be putting a turbine engine on a RV8. I went back and forth on my last weekend driver car purchase between a new Miata and a used Porsche. In the end I went with the used Porsche because I felt overall cost of ownership would be less. The Miata is a car however that just makes you smile and if you want fast they can be upgraded. I had a friend who took his C7 Vette to the track the first time. I asked him how it went. He said great other than getting beat by a freakishly fast Miata to quote him!
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Market cap on DAL et al will be worth a whole lot less very soon. I admire the concept, but now is not the time nor would it ever happen.
I’m curious why you say this?
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:50 PM
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Looks like OP's proposal isn't gaining traction with this crowd.

Meanwhile, I'll wait with popcorn ready for somebody to post something about spending $292K on boats, airplanes, and/or mistresses.
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I’m curious why you say this?
https://ycharts.com/indicators/10_ye...reasury_spread

https://goldprice.org/

All signs point to impending recession on the horizon.
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https://ycharts.com/indicators/10_ye...reasury_spread

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All signs point to impending recession on the horizon.
Political fight begins in 543....
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All signs point to impending recession on the horizon.
Delta is better positioned to weather a recession than any of our competitors. We will see if management's philosophy will pay off, but if the propaganda is correct, UAL and AAL will be burning the furniture and we will be putting the hammer down.
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Old 08-08-2019, 10:44 AM
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Delta is better positioned to weather a recession than any of our competitors. We will see if management's philosophy will pay off, but if the propaganda is correct, UAL and AAL will be burning the furniture and we will be putting the hammer down.
No bull market lasts uninterrupted forever, especially in a fiat debt system. There will be recessions, and that shouldn't be a big deal for any well run company especially with this many consecutive years of record shattering prosperity. If we ever truly fall on hard times again, it will be directly attributed to the mass quantities of stock burnbacks.

Bonus points if they then issue additional shares at very low prices.
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond View Post
Delta is better positioned to weather a recession than any of our competitors. We will see if management's philosophy will pay off, but if the propaganda is correct, UAL and AAL will be burning the furniture and we will be putting the hammer down.
That's exactly correct, as I predicted on here 10 years ago, the red hot growth in the Asia market would turn into a dumpster fire. Delta has the least exposure to the next down turn, as its JV partners are left holding the bag. Beyond 2025, the market will be wide open for widebody expansion around the world.
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
No bull market lasts uninterrupted forever, especially in a fiat debt system. There will be recessions, and that shouldn't be a big deal for any well run company especially with this many consecutive years of record shattering prosperity. If we ever truly fall on hard times again, it will be directly attributed to the mass quantities of stock burnbacks.

Bonus points if they then issue additional shares at very low prices.
Naaah. These stock buyback.. while I personally detest them... are not hurting the future bottom line. One could make the case that putting all that cash into the bank would be more detrimental.
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Old 08-08-2019, 01:15 PM
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Naaah. These stock buyback.. while I personally detest them... are not hurting the future bottom line. One could make the case that putting all that cash into the bank would be more detrimental.
WRT a recession, that money is literally lit up in flames. Stock price would go down and if there was any kind of balance sheet crunch, however short lived, stock would be issued and sold at cheap prices.

Profit sharing and these kinds of numbers are making everyone think its the new permanant normal. The entirety of the history of the industry suggests otherwise. IMO we will rue the day we lit 14 Billion (and counting) on fire for temporary exec flipper compensation.

SWA almost put 1-2 legacies out of business forever on what, a mere 1B a year advantage? We're burning so much we borrowed to burn more. I'm not making an all or nothing absolute on this. I just think the amounts so far have been very excessive and one day we will wish we had a quarter of that money back.
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