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Old 10-18-2019, 07:43 AM
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I'm hearing that there should be be a little bit NG term long haul wide body solution decision made in December. I think Delta also has investor day in Dec as well

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Obviously. But I’ve heard nothing from the company indicating they plan to take those planes and have heard a lot of talk that signals they will never be operated here.
These things take more than 2 weeks

I’ve heard people say we are buying spirit. Literally nobody said we were making a deal with LATAM until it happened. Rumors are garbage, top men are uninformed, and the NYC mid hotel was great.
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These things take more than 2 weeks

I’ve heard people say we are buying spirit. Literally nobody said we were making a deal with LATAM until it happened. Rumors are garbage, top men are uninformed, and the NYC mid hotel was great.
You win.

Also why not take their 787s if that's what we really want?
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You win.

Also why not take their 787s if that's what we really want?
Take 787's from who?

LATAM doesn't have any....neither does Spirit.
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You win.

Also why not take their 787s if that's what we really want?
We want a220-900s with 6 jt8ds
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
Take 787's from who?

LATAM doesn't have any....neither does Spirit.
LATAM does have 787s. 24 total. 10 788s, 14 789s. Future deliveries for 12 more 789s.
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LATAM does have 787s. 24 total. 10 788s, 14 789s. Future deliveries for 12 more 789s.
Maybe I don't understand how the deal with the LATAM group works. I know there are several subsidiary airlines such as LATAM Brasil, LATAM Chile, LATAM Argentina, etc. I thought the LATAM group had varying levels of minority/majority ownership in the those airlines.

I understood we are getting our 350's from the LATAM Brasil branch of the group. LATAM Brasil doesn't have 787's.

I know LATAM Chile and LATAM Peru have 787's in their fleets, but does the LATAM group own enough of those subsidaries they could give them to us or do the countries of Chile/Peru have a say?
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
You win.

Also why not take their 787s if that's what we really want?
LATAM wanted out of the A350 deal. I suspect taking the A350’s was a significant part of swaying them to dump American. I am not sure we really wanted them however we wanted the overall deal enough to take them.
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I'm hearing that there should be be a little bit NG term long haul wide body solution decision made in December. I think Delta also has investor day in Dec as well
What's that mean?
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
Maybe I don't understand how the deal with the LATAM group works. I know there are several subsidiary airlines such as LATAM Brasil, LATAM Chile, LATAM Argentina, etc. I thought the LATAM group had varying levels of minority/majority ownership in the those airlines.

I understood we are getting our 350's from the LATAM Brasil branch of the group. LATAM Brasil doesn't have 787's.

I know LATAM Chile and LATAM Peru have 787's in their fleets, but does the LATAM group own enough of those subsidaries they could give them to us or do the countries of Chile/Peru have a say?
We bought 20% of LATAM group, not LATAM-(insert country). They are the merging of LAN (Chilean) and TAM (Brazilian). LAN had the 787 orderbook, TAM the 350s. Once they merged, all the orders belonged to the newly found overlord group. The group then partitions the orders to the subsidiaries as they see fit.

Think of it like how AA owns 3 regional airlines, and all their jets. Those regionals really own nothing, they are subsidiaries, and AA can move their jets any which way between them or sell them outeight.
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