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10-21-2019, 11:17 AM

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sailingfun

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Originally Posted by WakeWash

So these two leased ones are 2 more on top of the rest? And not just a decision to lease 2 instead of buy and receive them earlier?

I suspect these two aircraft were originally leased for WOW. I also suspect Delta got a very good deal on the aircraft. The A330-900 is not selling well. It’s leasing even worse.

10-21-2019, 11:33 AM

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Any idea why?

10-21-2019, 11:46 AM

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Any idea why?

Basically the Neos were late to the party. Airlines jumped on the 787 for the fuel economy and savings. Neos great airplanes just late to the party. On the plus side should make for great acquisition costs for Delta.

10-21-2019, 12:00 PM

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Hopefully the late arrival will result in less bugs initially, i.e. battery fires.

10-21-2019, 12:03 PM

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Great news!

10-21-2019, 01:53 PM

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With the GTF widebody engines hitting the market in the next five years, I wonder what the viability of the plastic planes will be then. An Ultrafan A330 would have more than 9,000nm of range.

10-21-2019, 02:19 PM

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Given all the issues RR has with the Trent 1000, I wouldn't be holding my breath for the Ultrafan.

10-22-2019, 04:00 AM

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With the GTF widebody engines hitting the market in the next five years, I wonder what the viability of the plastic planes will be then. An Ultrafan A330 would have more than 9,000nm of range.

They already had to move the engines forward and up to get enough ground clearance on the NEO. I doubt there is more ground clearance to be had unless it’s a major redesign.

10-22-2019, 04:05 AM

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Any idea why?

35 year old airframe the airlines told Airbus they did not want back in the mid 2000’s resulting in Airbus building the A350. When the 787 racked up impressive sales they resurrected the concept hoping newer engines would help.
As an aside all widebodies are selling poorly right now. Probably a good time to be shopping!