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10-16-2019, 06:04 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Fwiw... my 3 year old learned the f word today.
And I was at fault.
She kept asking what is f.
Then I told her I said duck, I said f is not a real word. She was content. Didnt say the word again.
And I was at fault.
She kept asking what is f.
Then I told her I said duck, I said f is not a real word. She was content. Didnt say the word again.
Then he went to school and wrote a book about how the dog stands on two legs and twerks on mom, dad, him, and his siblings. It was either that or tell him that the dog is trying to breed my sons leg. I chose the twerking route and obedience school starts next week!
10-16-2019, 06:37 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Didn’t we have thread after thread a few years ago about wanting to be more like SW and fly 8 hours a day to work less days per month?
10-16-2019, 06:57 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Same in NYC. I think 5 trips report after 1000 and release before 1900. I know I know, commuting is an option. But damn it’s bad.
10-16-2019, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Funny, I'm not seeing the 24hr 3-days nor the 32hr 4-days. Just a ton of 15:45 & 21:00 3/4-days, with 15:00/20:00 hrs of block. And that time is usually put into all but 1 day, with the ADG assuring we get min trip pay.
10-16-2019, 10:51 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by captainchipotle
I guess when we have a guy from the regionals running flight ops, it’s not surprising to see us being ran like the regionals.
10-17-2019, 03:34 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
I’ve always wondered what their definition or the unions is. 1000 and 1900 doesn’t seem unreasonable.
10-17-2019, 03:36 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
ADG is killing us that's for sure.
The predecessors to the ADG, known as DPA (Duty Period Average) and VM (Variable Minimum) did NOT apply to:
1. Reserves
2. 30 hour layovers
3. DH only duty periods
4. Trips ending with a redeye landing in the morning.
Three day trips paying 11 hours, and two day trips paying seven, were quite common. And this is for regular line holders. A reserve could be assigned a two day trip that would pay as little as four hours!
If you think we are being "optimized" now I can't even imagine how it would be if we didn't have the ADG.
Now perhaps improvements to the ADG are merited. Many mention a hard min day. That might be worth looking into. But for all the current angst about not enough commutable trips, my guess is that a hard min day would result in far fewer than we have now. Then stand by for the tidal wave of complaining.
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