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Chrismo01 11-06-2019 07:14 AM

ExpressJet?
 
Hi, so I just recently committed to ExpressJet and have a class date in February. But I was speaking with a relative who is a captain at Delta and I became curious as to the relationship between ExpressJet and Delta. ExpressJet now only flies United tails and with the Aviate program, United is very appealing. But I do want to try and keep my options open. I’d like to know if being at ExpressJet would in any way hinder my chances to get hired by majors other than United, specifically Delta.

Thanks for any insight or advice anyone has.

sigler 11-06-2019 07:22 AM

No. Majors don’t care which regional you fly for. Your time at ExpressJet will be looked at the same way as if you were at Endeavor, Republic, Envoy, etc etc etc.

PassportPlump 11-06-2019 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Chrismo01 (Post 2918943)
Hi, so I just recently committed to ExpressJet and have a class date in February. But I was speaking with a relative who is a captain at Delta and I became curious as to the relationship between ExpressJet and Delta. ExpressJet now only flies United tails and with the Aviate program, United is very appealing. But I do want to try and keep my options open. I’d like to know if being at ExpressJet would in any way hinder my chances to get hired by majors other than United, specifically Delta.

Thanks for any insight or advice anyone has.

No. Go to a regional airline. Get your time. Apply.

I interviewed at multiple airlines and almost none of them cared about the quality of my regional airline. We had some guys from GoJet, some from big sky (defunct b1900 operator), etc.

Then when you get to Delta you will say “I flew for expressjet.” And the guy 36” to your left will say “what did they fly? I don’t know anything about them.”

Nobody will care in the long run which regional you came from. Just keep your nose clean so to speak when you’re at your regional. The RJ outfit I worked for was a ton of fun. We had a blast just about every week at work. Enjoy the journey.

Av8rking 11-06-2019 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Chrismo01 (Post 2918943)
Hi, so I just recently committed to ExpressJet and have a class date in February. But I was speaking with a relative who is a captain at Delta and I became curious as to the relationship between ExpressJet and Delta. ExpressJet now only flies United tails and with the Aviate program, United is very appealing. But I do want to try and keep my options open. I’d like to know if being at ExpressJet would in any way hinder my chances to get hired by majors other than United, specifically Delta.

Thanks for any insight or advice anyone has.

Like others have said; it won’t matter. The only thing I can add is that Endeavor does have a guaranteed Delta interview after serving 18 months as a captain. The pass rate so far is questionable, but still worth considering seeing as getting the interview is a huge deal. Good luck!

sailingfun 11-07-2019 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by Chrismo01 (Post 2918943)
Hi, so I just recently committed to ExpressJet and have a class date in February. But I was speaking with a relative who is a captain at Delta and I became curious as to the relationship between ExpressJet and Delta. ExpressJet now only flies United tails and with the Aviate program, United is very appealing. But I do want to try and keep my options open. I’d like to know if being at ExpressJet would in any way hinder my chances to get hired by majors other than United, specifically Delta.

Thanks for any insight or advice anyone has.

Express jet unlike some other regionals is known to have a solid training program. Flying for Express jet with a good training record will be a plus when interviewing with any other airline.

flightbag 11-07-2019 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2919544)
Express jet unlike some other regionals is known to have a solid training program. Flying for Express jet with a good training record will be a plus when interviewing with any other airline.

I personally know two pilots that went from Express Jet to Delta. Both flew the CRJ, one never flew captain. Today they're both on the 7ER. One based in ATL, the other in LAX.

deltabound 11-07-2019 08:41 AM

Upgrade to captain asap. Become a line check airman if possible. An advanced degree would be helpful (MBA, JD, etc). Get super involved in volunteer work in your community, preferably one that posts lots of pictures of you doing great things for popular causes. Join every professional pilot organization that will take your money, no matter how ridiculous your affiliation with it might seem. Apply early and often to every major you’d ever consider working for. Don’t get a speeding ticket, and keep your credit score up.

For gods sake, scrub every social media post you’ve ever put up that you wouldn’t feel comfortable showing your great grandmother, on a huge screen, in church on Easter Sunday with a huge congregation of ultra judgmental prudes.

Above all, don’t believe the hype about the “looming pilot shortage.” It’ll never happen. I’ve heard that old chestnut for 25 years now. Robots will be flying the planes before we ever return to the days when majors were hiring private pilots with single engine only time.

(Only partly TIC. There’s a reason seasoned pilots tell the youngsters not to put everything in the “airline pilot” career basket)

LeineLodge 11-07-2019 11:23 AM

Only thing I’d add to the above is apply as soon as you meet the minimums.

I have known plenty of pilots that took themselves out of the running by saying things like “Delta would never look at me with my experience” or “I’ll apply just as soon as...”

If you want to work here, meet the minimums, apply and then update your app regularly (while building your resume and following the advice above). Don’t let your own doubts be the reason they don’t call you for an interview. Good luck!

FlyingR6 11-07-2019 01:26 PM

What's the upgrade time like at XJT these days? I truly loved working there, but upgrade time was not even in the ball park compared to other places. I know they've got 175s now, and the United flow is working, but I feel like it would still be a long upgrade.

lalique78 11-07-2019 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingR6 (Post 2919932)
What's the upgrade time like at XJT these days? I truly loved working there, but upgrade time was not even in the ball park compared to other places. I know they've got 175s now, and the United flow is working, but I feel like it would still be a long upgrade.



Now upgrade time is around 3 years after next bid, it’s should be about 1,5-2 years.

freezingflyboy 11-07-2019 02:54 PM

ExpressJet OG (CoEx) here. Definitely didn't impede my getting to Delta. In fact, XJT was the most represented regional in my new hire class.

UnitedAviate 11-07-2019 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingR6 (Post 2919932)
What's the upgrade time like at XJT these days? I truly loved working there, but upgrade time was not even in the ball park compared to other places. I know they've got 175s now, and the United flow is working, but I feel like it would still be a long upgrade.

There is no United flow. Do not think that being at Expressjet will increase your chances at United. Good to see you are asking people here versus reading the crap on the United "Aviate" site!

DWC CAP10 USAF 11-08-2019 05:13 AM

The 6 Nov Indoc class breakdown was as follows:

23 total with a 30% Mil / 70% Civilian breakdown

Mil: USAF, USMC, USN, NOAA

Civ: American, Compass, Expressjet, Republic, Endeavor, Allegiant, PSA

Good luck!

FlyingR6 11-08-2019 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by lalique78 (Post 2919943)
Now upgrade time is around 3 years after next bid, it’s should be about 1,5-2 years.

Oh that's great. Glad to see XJT back on its feet. It looked so bleak there for a long time.

flightbag 11-08-2019 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingR6 (Post 2920213)
Oh that's great. Glad to see XJT back on its feet. It looked so bleak there for a long time.

As they get rolling Captain bids will probably go down to one to one and a half years.

ASAPsafetyGUY 11-08-2019 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by sigler (Post 2918950)
No. Majors don’t care which regional you fly for. Your time at ExpressJet will be looked at the same way as if you were at Endeavor, Republic, Envoy, etc etc etc.

Speaking of Republic, the tool of the day award goes to the tool that queried the high-stressed Brickyard crew out of Atlanta if he had done his QRH. What a tool.

theUpsideDown 11-08-2019 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2920482)
Speaking of Republic, the tool of the day award goes to the tool that queried the high-stressed Brickyard crew out of Atlanta if he had done his QRH. What a tool.

Good thing he broke in on freq.

Smoke Toliet 11-08-2019 05:35 PM

A wind check would of been more helpful.


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