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03-26-2020, 06:44 AM

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Also of note the 23K exception from LOA20-01 is only effective for the April bid period.

03-26-2020, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

There is no requirement for the company to cancel a rotation because the first leg or day cancels. In fact the contract specifically allows the company to deadhead you to pick up the remainder of the rotation.

They should however rewrite the rotation to show a DH. Correct? They can’t just leave dangling canceled pieces of it without it all connecting together into a coherent path.

03-26-2020, 07:14 AM

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They should however rewrite the rotation to show a DH. Correct? They can’t just leave dangling canceled pieces of it without it all connecting together into a coherent path.

This is what I'm trying to figure out. My schedule doesn't make sense.

03-26-2020, 07:23 AM

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If your rotation starts at 1900 can they assign you flying prior to your original sign in time?
thanks

03-26-2020, 07:29 AM

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This is what I'm trying to figure out. My schedule doesn't make sense.

If it is the day before or day of the trip I would call crew scheduling. If it is longer than that I would give them time to adjust or Noop the trip. As we all know they are overwhelmed right now. I had March trips that were obviously not going and it took them a long time to Noop but they did. I have two April trips with 3 out of 4 legs canceled. I’ll wait on those. No rush.

03-26-2020, 07:38 AM

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Judging by all the open time for April in my category it looks like 23K is going to be a bad deal for pilots..Most of all the trips everyone rebid have already been canceled.

03-26-2020, 07:39 AM

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If your rotation starts at 1900 can they assign you flying prior to your original sign in time?
thanks

No, I believe it has to start on or after your original sign in time.

03-26-2020, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ERflyer

They should however rewrite the rotation to show a DH. Correct? They can’t just leave dangling canceled pieces of it without it all connecting together into a coherent path.

You are correct, and I have seen them connecting the dots the day prior to the changes.

03-26-2020, 07:41 AM

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If your rotation starts at 1900 can they assign you flying prior to your original sign in time?
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Absolutely not. Hard no.

03-26-2020, 07:43 AM

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If your rotation starts at 1900 can they assign you flying prior to your original sign in time?
thanks

No, unless it’s simply bumping your original departure time up. I.E. No change other than making first flight segment depart up to 15 minutes earlier.