23K/Recovery Questions Thread
12-21-2020, 06:32 AM
#591
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I have a 5 day trip that was NOOPed starting Dec 29. I am assuming that I will have recovery obligations that go through Jan 2 if I do not put in a recovery slip. Just curious because the 23k is not reflected in my Jan time card or showing up as 23k for Jan 1 and 2 in MiCrew. I just want to make sure that 23k obligations are based on rotation even if they spill into the next bid period. Thanks.
12-21-2020, 07:37 AM
#592
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Originally Posted by ejpogo
I have a 5 day trip that was NOOPed starting Dec 29. I am assuming that I will have recovery obligations that go through Jan 2 if I do not put in a recovery slip. Just curious because the 23k is not reflected in my Jan time card or showing up as 23k for Jan 1 and 2 in MiCrew. I just want to make sure that 23k obligations are based on rotation even if they spill into the next bid period. Thanks.
Also, the “23k” on your schedule is a pay code, not an indicator of obligation status.
12-21-2020, 12:08 PM
#593
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
not that I can find it written in the PWA, but over the last few months it appears scheds was not assigning recovery obligations to folks when the spillover trip was NOOP’d.
Also, the “23k” on your schedule is a pay code, not an indicator of obligation status.
Also, the “23k” on your schedule is a pay code, not an indicator of obligation status.
Correct. That part of your trip is gone just like if they adjusted the schedule before the publishing of the new bid package. If if was after, you would have recovery obligations.
12-21-2020, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ejpogo
I have a 5 day trip that was NOOPed starting Dec 29. I am assuming that I will have recovery obligations that go through Jan 2 if I do not put in a recovery slip. Just curious because the 23k is not reflected in my Jan time card or showing up as 23k for Jan 1 and 2 in MiCrew. I just want to make sure that 23k obligations are based on rotation even if they spill into the next bid period. Thanks.
01-04-2021, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ERflyer
I had a 3-day trip 23K and was canceled.
Can I PCS a recovery 2-day trip for days one and two to satisfy the 50% rule, and then later White Slip a 1-day trip on day three to make more?
Can I PCS a recovery 2-day trip for days one and two to satisfy the 50% rule, and then later White Slip a 1-day trip on day three to make more?
2) If you have 23K rotation, you may submit a recovery slip, and rotation you pick up must be worth at least 50% of the credit value (not days of rotation)
3) If your 23K rotation has been cancelled, we are not in a double 23K situation, so you would be free to WS/GS over the entire footprint of the original rotation.
01-04-2021, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
1) Are you saying your rotation was cancelled and you got 23K? Or are you saying your 23K trip is cancelled?
2) If you have 23K rotation, you may submit a recovery slip, and rotation you pick up must be worth at least 50% of the credit value (not days of rotation)
3) If your 23K rotation has been cancelled, we are not in a double 23K situation, so you would be free to WS/GS over the entire footprint of the original rotation.
2) If you have 23K rotation, you may submit a recovery slip, and rotation you pick up must be worth at least 50% of the credit value (not days of rotation)
3) If your 23K rotation has been cancelled, we are not in a double 23K situation, so you would be free to WS/GS over the entire footprint of the original rotation.
Thanks for the input. That’s what I thought too for 2) and 3) but wanted confirmation.
01-29-2021, 01:59 PM
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Recovery question
If I try to swap with the pot for a rotation that already shows one of the legs is cancelled and am successful, will the rotation/I be subject to recovery when I show up at report time?
01-29-2021, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by konabear
If I try to swap with the pot for a rotation that already shows one of the legs is cancelled and am successful, will the rotation/I be subject to recovery when I show up at report time?
02-05-2021, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MJP27
it depends if it noop'd before or after the bid adjustment process. I had a 5 day carry out last month. My recover obligation was only for the 1 day in November and not the four days in December. My schedule I MiCrew still showed 23k for December but there was no recovery obligation outside of 30 Nov
In your case, did they noop it before the bid adjustment? If so, were you able to bid a trip on 1 or 2 dec to block(minimize) the chance of getting assigned 23.k in nov?
Additionally, as I read the contract, you are pay protected for the Nov time but SOL for the dec time?...these are questions...not statements
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