How Soon Will COVID-19 Peak? (How To Tell)
04-04-2020, 09:38 AM
#111
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Wasn't that changed during the Bush admin after Katrina?
....nevermind, that's only when the people start rioting, so later this summer.
....nevermind, that's only when the people start rioting, so later this summer.
04-04-2020, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
You are leaving out all of the people that will die, because they cannot get medical personnel to evaluate them/can't get a hospital bed/can't get into the OR/can't get an ICU bed/can't get a ventilator/can't get medicine they need. When the Cvirus overwhelms the health system in an area, then there are no assets to treat them with. You get in a car accident, you fall, you get very sick, you need surgery...a LOT of these people will die, because there is nothing available to treat them with.
When our medical specialists are dead, or in quarantine because they got the Cvirus, they cannot treat us, and we will suffer.
When our medical specialists are dead, or in quarantine because they got the Cvirus, they cannot treat us, and we will suffer.
04-04-2020, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
Anyone who would trade freedom for safety deserves neither.
In the Dark Ages of Europe, there were not nations, governments, laws or rules, outside of your local tribe. We decided, as a whole, that this was a very bad situation. That is why we formed nations, with governments, the military, a legal system with laws rules and courts. Everyone (mostly) was tired of having armed men arrive in their village and kill and rape and plunder. We ALL traded freedom for protection within the nation-state system.
04-04-2020, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
You don't need additional medical personnel, one nurse can direct 50 soldiers. You don't need ventilators either, they are useless 90% of the time.
Can an airline capt sit in the jumpseat and direct people off the street to fly the plane???
04-04-2020, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pogey bait
i would bet that ain’t gonna happen to the normal healthy joe on the street. The people that are dying from this virus were not going to make it many years past this current date anyhow. Now, we have completely shut down the world, just to buy a couple of years for a select few? This makes absolutely no sense. I currently know one individual with the virus, confirmed through testing, she describes it as seasonal allergies. Gmafb!
a 17-year-old school football player who dreamed of turning pro has died in new orleans after testing positive for coronavirus, officials confirmed this week.his death proves that “everyone is at risk” from the pandemic, louisiana gov. John bel edwards said thursday as his state was eyed as a potential new hotspot for the virus.
“nobody should assume this disease will not severely impact them or have the potential to kill them,” he said, according to the report...
two nurses in their 30s, areema nasreen and aimee o'rourke, who each had three children, have died alongside two healthcare assistants...
new data from the centers for disease control and prevention show that among the roughly 12% of covid-19 cases in the u.s. Known to need hospitalizations, about 1 in 5 were among people ages 20 to 44.
“nobody should assume this disease will not severely impact them or have the potential to kill them,” he said, according to the report...
two nurses in their 30s, areema nasreen and aimee o'rourke, who each had three children, have died alongside two healthcare assistants...
new data from the centers for disease control and prevention show that among the roughly 12% of covid-19 cases in the u.s. Known to need hospitalizations, about 1 in 5 were among people ages 20 to 44.
04-04-2020, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
That is what ALL humans do (well, almost all). When you set up some type of system of government, you are trading freedom for safety.
In the Dark Ages of Europe, there were not nations, governments, laws or rules, outside of your local tribe. We decided, as a whole, that this was a very bad situation. That is why we formed nations, with governments, the military, a legal system with laws rules and courts. Everyone (mostly) was tired of having armed men arrive in their village and kill and rape and plunder. We ALL traded freedom for protection within the nation-state system.
In the Dark Ages of Europe, there were not nations, governments, laws or rules, outside of your local tribe. We decided, as a whole, that this was a very bad situation. That is why we formed nations, with governments, the military, a legal system with laws rules and courts. Everyone (mostly) was tired of having armed men arrive in their village and kill and rape and plunder. We ALL traded freedom for protection within the nation-state system.
04-04-2020, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by beis77
04-04-2020, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
I would bet that ain’t gonna happen to the normal healthy Joe on the street. The people that are dying from this virus were not going to make it many years past this current date anyhow. Now, we have completely shut down the world, just to buy a couple of years for a select few? This makes absolutely no sense. I currently know one individual with the virus, confirmed through testing, she describes it as seasonal allergies. GMAFB!
I have seen and read many accounts of COVID positive people with healthy immune systems beating COVID, and not only that, doing so well that COVID was no big deal.
We need to a hear a serious discussion from our upper leadership on their risk/benefit analysis and what their triggers are for releasing the lockdowns. Show us their plan! What is their math? How seriously do they take a 2nd Great Depression? We deserve to know their thinking and projections. We all understand things are fluid and thats ok. but this constant indefinition and ambiguity has to stop.
Last I heard was Dr Fauci saying lockdowns ended when there are no new cases. I'd have to find the direct quote, but that's what he said. I don't see how no new cases is the proper trigger in damage mitigating; starvation, riots, looting, women turning to prostition, homelessness, domestic abuse, depression, draining medical funding for anything not COVID related etc.
Heres the link with video, Dr Fauci in his own words. https://www.citizenfreepress.com/column-1/fauci-lockdown-will-continue-until-there-are-no-new-cases/
No new cases? What?!! That will take forever considering COVID seems to "flare up" again and again.
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