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Old 04-02-2020, 10:14 AM
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Yeah, they act like that’s delta’s money, that money is earmarked for and belongs to the employees.
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.I don’t understand why they are still pretending the grant money is supposed to cover all expenses when it’s meant to just cover payroll
Their message contradicts the message and language of the CARE act. I can't believe how blatant they are. Labor costs are covered until September.

Cut costs somewhere else.
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Their message contradicts the message and language of the CARE act. I can't believe how blatant they are. Labor costs are covered until September.

Cut costs somewhere else.
seriously. If (big if) i was gonna be okay with any concessions it wouldn’t be any that went into effect before October 1, after i get furloughed.
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Since were talking numbers, I'd like to know how much are we saving on fuel this month?
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Old 04-02-2020, 10:26 AM
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Since were talking numbers, I'd like to know how much are we saving on fuel this month?
I’d say not much since 1/3 of the fleet is burning any fuel to save money on.
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Old 04-02-2020, 10:58 AM
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Did anyone get the impression JL was writing that wearing a hooded black cloak? I'm confused how does a lower ALV vs SILs anger other work groups less?
Because lower ALVs mean less take home pay for pilots, who are still working, albeit less than normal, just like the workers now working 3-4 day weeks. They can relate and don't see a special "good deal" for pilots vs them.

The SILs are PLOAs that pay 2/3 of a months salary while owing zero obligation to the company....just like the company granted thousands of similar PLOAs to the noncons.... for zero pay.

Surely you see the difference?

Nevertheless the company should have offered the SILs for May. It was a huge mistake not to. Surely in all that Delta public relations world they could have spun it well enough (and truthfully enough) to placate the noncons. We don't have to be in their face (no need to yell "get a union!") but something as simple as "we made a deal with the pilots on extreme short notice, our fleet complexity and FAA requirements make a comparison between pilots and others groups impossible, we'll reassess in a month, blah blah" would have gone a long way. The fact the company didn't even try, and didn't get any metrics (and we are a data obsessed company, normally) is troubling.
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I don't think this short-term tiff is going to make much a difference soon with the media already telling the public to embrace for a second wave in the Fall.
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Has anyone else seen the Youtube video from yesterday where DALPA reps talk about COVID-19 and management hiding the numbers and telling pilots not to inform crews they've worked with?
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$50 million savings in one month....pathetic and they need more.


$28 million pwa gains after months of negotiating .... seems reasonable and we want to much.
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Originally Posted by bohicagain View Post
$50 million savings in one month....pathetic and they need more.


$28 million pwa gains after months of negotiating .... seems reasonable and we want to much.
This puts things in perspective...
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