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Old 04-02-2020, 06:48 PM
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When my crew is given a rotation to operate one leg, layover, then deadhead home ....

and another crew is given a green slip to deadhead one leg, layover, then operate home

Burning thru cash / pilot payroll must not be that big of an issue....

I’m sure there are plenty of other examples out there. Post em up.
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Flying with 10% load factors for a month straight seems like a sure fire way to burn cash.
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Flying with 10% load factors for a month straight seems like a sure fire way to burn cash.
Especially with double or triple crews ...
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Originally Posted by Hossharris View Post
When my crew is given a rotation to operate one leg, layover, then deadhead home ....

and another crew is given a green slip to deadhead one leg, layover, then operate home

Burning thru cash / pilot payroll must not be that big of an issue....

I’m sure there are plenty of other examples out there. Post em up.
Admittedly I haven't been domestic in awhile, but back 5 yrs or so ago, this happened routinely on the 88 fit at least, and that was with 90% load factors.
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Originally Posted by Hossharris View Post
When my crew is given a rotation to operate one leg, layover, then deadhead home ....

and another crew is given a green slip to deadhead one leg, layover, then operate home

Burning thru cash / pilot payroll must not be that big of an issue....

I’m sure there are plenty of other examples out there. Post em up.
That is exactly what is going on, I called the duty pilot to vent/complain and he said "yea we know"

It's like they are trying to burn cash
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Old 04-03-2020, 07:33 AM
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Same situation. (Deadhead to a LO and operate 1 leg back with the original crew on a DH back) Only both CA and FO were on Greenslips and only 3 pax aboard for a 1 hour flight.

Think about that... 5 working crew, 2 deadheaders ...and 3 pax. I figure about $10k pay for just the operating CA/FO plus we burned about 2,200 lbs of gas per pax. At some point wouldn't it be cheaper to just charter our customers a private jet? Didn't we just buy Wheels Up?
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I could be wrong, but I get the impression they are literally overwhelmed. To be fair, no airline is set up for this kind of world, and they are doing whatever they can just to keep the biggest of the 10 monster alligators from swamping the boat. They'll worry about the other 9 in 10 seconds if they don't get eaten. Maybe - maybe - once they get into a steady state the craziness will abate. If we ever get to a point where there is a steady state of some kind that is...
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4 day trip. DH Atl-sav. DH sav-Atl. Work Atl-phl. DH phl-Atl. Not sure, might be some possible cost saving in there.... forget about reducing exposure risk.
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield View Post
Flying with 10% load factors for a month straight seems like a sure fire way to burn cash.
Crews and planes and pretty much all other overhead is a sunken cost right now though, and fuel is basically free. Also we need a skeleton domestic network to spoke what little profitable flying (cargo, which there's no money in or something) beyond the hub(s) it goes to.
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I have way bigger fish to fry than how scheduling is handling their job.
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