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Old 06-03-2020, 02:23 PM
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The World Health Organization and a number of national governments have changed their Covid-19 policies and treatments on the basis of flawed data from a little-known US healthcare analytics company, also calling into question the integrity of key studies published in some of the world’s most prestigious medical journals.

A Guardian investigation can reveal the US-based company Surgisphere, whose handful of employees appear to include a science fiction writer and an adult-content model, has provided data for multiple studies on Covid-19 co-authored by its chief executive, but has so far failed to adequately explain its data or methodology.

Data it claims to have legitimately obtained from more than a thousand hospitals worldwide formed the basis of scientific articles that have led to changes in Covid-19 treatment policies in Latin American countries. It was also behind a decision by the WHO and research institutes around the world to halt trials of the controversial drug hydroxychloroquine.

On Wednesday, the WHO announced those trials would now resume.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...oxychloroquine
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The World Health Organization and a number of national governments have changed their Covid-19 policies and treatments on the basis of flawed data from a little-known US healthcare analytics company, also calling into question the integrity of key studies published in some of the world’s most prestigious medical journals.

A Guardian investigation can reveal the US-based company Surgisphere, whose handful of employees appear to include a science fiction writer and an adult-content model, has provided data for multiple studies on Covid-19 co-authored by its chief executive, but has so far failed to adequately explain its data or methodology.

Data it claims to have legitimately obtained from more than a thousand hospitals worldwide formed the basis of scientific articles that have led to changes in Covid-19 treatment policies in Latin American countries. It was also behind a decision by the WHO and research institutes around the world to halt trials of the controversial drug hydroxychloroquine.

On Wednesday, the WHO announced those trials would now resume.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...oxychloroquine

Malaria drug touted by Trump fails to prevent COVID-19 in high profile study


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23A34F
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Vegas Casinos are open for business ...

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https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronaviru...5e85ca414.html

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Malaria drug touted by Trump fails to prevent COVID-19 in high profile study


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23A34F
kind of validates what the Guardian article said, they relied on a bad study to shut down or even damage the ongoing studies like in the Reuter’s article. That’s a shame. Good to see in that Reuter’s article that the University of Minnesota trial, 40% of the those who took hydroxychloroquine reported less serious side effects like nausea and abdominal discomfort versus 17% in the placebo group.
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kind of validates what the Guardian article said, they relied on a bad study to shut down or even damage the ongoing studies like in the Reuter’s article. That’s a shame. Good to see in that Reuter’s article that the University of Minnesota trial, 40% of the those who took hydroxychloroquine reported less serious side effects like nausea and abdominal discomfort versus 17% in the placebo group.
“I think both sides - one side who is saying ‘this is a dangerous drug’ and the other side that says ‘this works’ - neither is correct,” said Boulware.
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Just got to dodge the rioters and Antifa on strip now.
Didn't I see this already in one of the versions of Grand Theft Auto?
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“I think both sides - one side who is saying ‘this is a dangerous drug’ and the other side that says ‘this works’ - neither is correct,” said Boulware.
Both Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine have retracted their original studies


Retracted: Hydroxycholorquine study pulled over suspect data.

Three of the four authors no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources.


by Beth Mole - Jun 4, 2020 4:07pm EDT

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...a-still-shady/


The Lancet medical journal on Thursday announced the retraction of a dubious study suggesting that the anti-malaria drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine significantly increased the risk of death and heart-rhythm complications in hospitalized COVID-19 patients worldwide.

Three of the study’s four authors made the decision to retract the study after they were unable to independently verify the data used for their analysis. The data was provided by an obscure data analytics company, Surgisphere, which is run by the fourth author of the study, Sapan S Desai, who did not appear to agree to the retraction.
...In the meantime, the WHO announced Wednesday that it had resumed its trial of hydroxychloroquine after it reviewed the data and found no problems.
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Update: 6/4/2020, 4:30pm ET: A second COVID-19 related study based on Surgisphere data has now been retracted. The study was published in The New England Journal of Medicine and looked at the effect of preexisting use of angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors and angiotensin-receptor blockers (ARBs) in COVID-19 patients. As in the case of the Lancet study, the authors reported that "Because all the authors were not granted access to the raw data and the raw data could not be made available to a third-party auditor, we are unable to validate the primary data sources underlying our article."

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Daily reminder that nobody knows anything, the news is half truths at best driven by narratives and agendas that sell pharmaceuticals, and experts aren’t as smart as they’re given credit for.

Whew. Morning rant over.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Both Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine have retracted their original studies


Retracted: Hydroxycholorquine study pulled over suspect data.

Three of the four authors no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources.


by Beth Mole - Jun 4, 2020 4:07pm EDT

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...a-still-shady/


The Lancet medical journal on Thursday announced the retraction of a dubious study suggesting that the anti-malaria drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine significantly increased the risk of death and heart-rhythm complications in hospitalized COVID-19 patients worldwide.

Three of the study’s four authors made the decision to retract the study after they were unable to independently verify the data used for their analysis. The data was provided by an obscure data analytics company, Surgisphere, which is run by the fourth author of the study, Sapan S Desai, who did not appear to agree to the retraction.
...In the meantime, the WHO announced Wednesday that it had resumed its trial of hydroxychloroquine after it reviewed the data and found no problems.
...


Update: 6/4/2020, 4:30pm ET: A second COVID-19 related study based on Surgisphere data has now been retracted. The study was published in The New England Journal of Medicine and looked at the effect of preexisting use of angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors and angiotensin-receptor blockers (ARBs) in COVID-19 patients. As in the case of the Lancet study, the authors reported that "Because all the authors were not granted access to the raw data and the raw data could not be made available to a third-party auditor, we are unable to validate the primary data sources underlying our article."
I'm not arguing against the fact that this particular company may have spread unreliable info; the Reuters article I posted already states that. The U of M study mentioned in the article isn't related to Surgisphere.
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