TANSTAAFL

Noticed an odd thing in iCrew the other day around the same time as BS’s memo regarding their preliminary bid run - on the iCrew AE Pref home page header it showed my current category AND a future category (that was the same as my current) I thought that was odd but didn’t dwell on it. A few days later I noticed the future category was back to *NONE*

Wondering if this was an IT glitch that showed the bid result 🤞for as long as they were analyzing it? Anyone else notice something similar?

FangsF15

No, but I’ll ask the rhetorical question. Why again can they not publish at least some data, if not all of it, from mock runs again? Especially on a bid as consequential as this one?

Clearly, they have the ability.

Han Solo

What you saw was probably accurate. I've noticed that when greens are going out they'll run the trip against everyone's line to check for legality and for a brief moment it will show up as covered on the daily trip coverage report. Every time you recheck the trip is on someone else's line. My guess is they have no way to break out the test run from a real run.

I saw this question asked on the Widget FB page. The most logical answer was that it would likely drive most pilots to change their bid which would invalidate any such test. Also from FB: you have to remember the purpose behind any company messaging, it will be designed to either help the pilot group or help management. Which road do you think this management team is taking? I won't tell you what to do, but I assume that every message that I receive was thoughtfully crafted and was sent with a purpose. I believe that management is looking for 10-20 years of concessions from a 2-3 year crisis, and that's how I read their messages.

It would be simple to publish and the fact that they didn't should show you the motives and character of who we're dealing with. They did not publish the preliminary data to help out the pilot group.

crewdawg

Add to it, some pilots ability to latch on to something and not let it go. Ever seen the gnashing of teeth whens schedules in iCrew don't match the wide report? Someone would get what they wanted on the mock run then absolutely lose their minds when it changes.

Falcon20

This here is the truth. It doesn’t help you figure out what you could hold because the variables will change thus changing the results.

TANSTAAFL

Agree with you and CrewDawg it’s gonna change, was just academically wondering if that’s what I saw. Anticipating and out of base IQ, anything less is gravy 😑

sailingfun

The reason is that most bid changes are submitted in the 24 hours before the bid closes. If they posted practice runs pilots would scream bloody murder that they were misled when the final bid came out. Remember when you could back door your schedule early? Crew scheduling got swamped with pilots demanding to know why it changed despite warning after warning that no schedule is final until posted on DBMS.

Sputnik

I don't know why they don't release it. But personally, I find bad data worse than no data.

And the numbers if BS's email were, to me, bad data--only added confusion.

MoonShot

You cant leave us hanging, what category and approximate seniority?

crewdawg

Set your bids with what you'd want and go enjoy the weekend. Stressing over it isn't going to make things better.