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Old 05-14-2020, 06:41 AM
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It's a bloodbath. For being in better shape than United it sure looks like we are cutting just as many pilots.
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It's a bloodbath. For being in better shape than United it sure looks like we are cutting just as many pilots.
I actually thought overall it was not near as bad as my expectations. 10700 pilots needed. Keep in mind we always carry above that number and the percentage above is higher during high training demand. The question now is will they furlough to that plan or furlough to the summer 2022 plan.
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I actually thought overall it was not near as bad as my expectations. 10700 pilots needed. Keep in mind we always carry above that number and the percentage above is higher during high training demand. The question now is will they furlough to that plan or furlough to the summer 2022 plan.

“We currently forecast a requirement for approximately 9,400 pilots in Q3 2021. “

That’s pretty ugly. This is 18 months away, and is AFTER accounting for the expected retirements in that time frame. Once the training churn shakes out, probably about 10,700 total left on property is about the right number though.



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I actually thought overall it was not near as bad as my expectations. 10700 pilots needed. Keep in mind we always carry above that number and the percentage above is higher during high training demand. The question now is will they furlough to that plan or furlough to the summer 2022 plan.
My guess is the 2021 plan. I originally thought 2022, but given what's come out here recently, I'm going with 2021. So looks like it will be a huge number out the door come 1 Oct, me included.

Hey Sailing, help me out here, what do they mean by "active" pilot? Is that including NBCSIC, NBCMIL etc or not?
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How do you figure out if you will be UNA or not? So many numbers floating around and it's hard to comprehend how many furloughs are coming. I'm a sep 2016 hire number around 11700
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How do you figure out if you will be UNA or not? So many numbers floating around and it's hard to comprehend how many furloughs are coming. I'm a sep 2016 hire number around 11700
Imma a 12xxx. Given the numbers thrown about, I'll be a UNA for sure.
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And these numbers don't account for an early retirement plan so I guess it all means nothing yet except that we are going to be collect 717b pay for now instead of current category
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So is someone going to make a fancy chart like they did for AA that makes us all feel better?
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Those guys who said we'd never have a hiccup, our career would be clear sailing..

Can I punch them in the face now?
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if anyone ever says that to me again i might lose it, after 9/11 then the global recession then the age 65 rule change and now this...
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