What’s Deltas plan? Passive vs. Aggressive
05-28-2020, 10:24 AM
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What’s Deltas plan? Passive vs. Aggressive
05-28-2020, 11:26 AM
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SWA is interested in running an airline for profit. No optics. No psychological ops on the pilot group. In short, they want to kick some *$$ in the airline world.
Its gonna be ours that gets that kicking.
Our putz exec/mgmt team is atrocious with what they focus on and act on. We have been in a profitable period in spite of them. Things have obviously changed.
I have no confidence whatsoever in our (lack of a) plan, our financial principles, nor our labor relations. And for sure not the lip service "rules of the road". This is eerily similar to working at NWA. Sucks.
Its gonna be ours that gets that kicking.
Our putz exec/mgmt team is atrocious with what they focus on and act on. We have been in a profitable period in spite of them. Things have obviously changed.
I have no confidence whatsoever in our (lack of a) plan, our financial principles, nor our labor relations. And for sure not the lip service "rules of the road". This is eerily similar to working at NWA. Sucks.
05-28-2020, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by horseface
SWA is interested in running an airline for profit. No optics. No psychological ops on the pilot group. In short, they want to kick some *$$ in the airline world.
Its gonna be ours that gets that kicking.
Our putz exec/mgmt team is atrocious with what they focus on and act on. We have been in a profitable period in spite of them. Things have obviously changed.
I have no confidence whatsoever in our (lack of a) plan, our financial principles, nor our labor relations.
Its gonna be ours that gets that kicking.
Our putz exec/mgmt team is atrocious with what they focus on and act on. We have been in a profitable period in spite of them. Things have obviously changed.
I have no confidence whatsoever in our (lack of a) plan, our financial principles, nor our labor relations.
Oh well, you go to war with the generals you have, even if they're not as good on a different battlefield as they were on the last, much easier one.
05-28-2020, 12:08 PM
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It’s ironic because after reading all this I thought of the exact same kind of questions.
I’m still a rookie here but this makes me super nervous. I’m trying to keep my faith in Delta here but with AA, SWA, Spirit, Allegient and whoever else is preparing for full spin up this fall, how can we be sitting so idle?
I’m still a rookie here but this makes me super nervous. I’m trying to keep my faith in Delta here but with AA, SWA, Spirit, Allegient and whoever else is preparing for full spin up this fall, how can we be sitting so idle?
05-28-2020, 12:20 PM
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Read somewhere that after a recession, leisure travel picks up before business travel. Delta is geared not towards mostly cheap leisure travel, but business travel with premium pricing.
It would appear that the non-business airlines are going to have advantages in the new environment. (Spirit, Frontier, SWA somewhat, and new entrants).
Delta’s international flying has completely collapsed, and the risk sharing with code share partners does not appear to have worked well for this contingency.
I wonder if Delta imagines itself rebranding as a low cost domestic airline? Costs will have to come WAY down first, and the great unwashed flying public won’t care about anything other than ticket price.
No idea what the master strategy is; but I take that “overstaffed by 7000 pilots” comment to mean Delta is going to be something very different 3 years from now. And that would be a “success”.
It would appear that the non-business airlines are going to have advantages in the new environment. (Spirit, Frontier, SWA somewhat, and new entrants).
Delta’s international flying has completely collapsed, and the risk sharing with code share partners does not appear to have worked well for this contingency.
I wonder if Delta imagines itself rebranding as a low cost domestic airline? Costs will have to come WAY down first, and the great unwashed flying public won’t care about anything other than ticket price.
No idea what the master strategy is; but I take that “overstaffed by 7000 pilots” comment to mean Delta is going to be something very different 3 years from now. And that would be a “success”.
05-28-2020, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fourpaw
It’s ironic because after reading all this I thought of the exact same kind of questions.
I’m still a rookie here but this makes me super nervous. I’m trying to keep my faith in Delta here but with AA, SWA, Spirit, Allegient and whoever else is preparing for full spin up this fall, how can we be sitting so idle?
I’m still a rookie here but this makes me super nervous. I’m trying to keep my faith in Delta here but with AA, SWA, Spirit, Allegient and whoever else is preparing for full spin up this fall, how can we be sitting so idle?
Watch any of the propaganda...er...I mean town halls and you’ll see why: Ed is 100% convinced people will not fly again until a vaccine exists. Every time another member of management says anything remotely positive about reservation trends, LFs, etc., he directly follows up with something like “but again, these are small percentages, and I don’t see us getting close to where we were until a vaccine or effective treatment is available”.
When the ship’s Captain is convinced the white whale is out there, nothing you say is going to change his mind.
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