Gspeed

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Anyone seen my receipt?....

higney85

It’s 72:00 of 717B rate. Lowest reserve guarantee from lowest operating aircraft in service. Vacation and any carry-in (spill) really hasn’t been addressed. Answers to that range from “counts towards and/or prorated/Or paid above). I’m a rather senior UNA/717B already and showing an October conversion. Makes zero sense with those junior in category still in place for months, but I guess we are doing “who displaces who”, and in the end the junior guys in the company (NYC 220B) show May 2021. That’s also a weird metric within the category, but also pay protection from 1900 junior From a category with limited training capacity and a full flying load. It won’t stick as written, hasn’t shown correct in 3+ years, but that’s what it says. Interestingly enough, I had 5 GS callouts on Sunday. The company and union are working on early out plans, that should have been done before a bid. Not betting the furlough fund, but things aren’t going toward the company surplus plan. Something tells me a clean up AE will have to show up with reinstatements to make training plans realistic and keep many UNA folks in place. Still thinking those who never qualified before COVID will get furloughed OCT 1, with a short time away, the rest will possibly be reinstated or fill holes. How they play AE vs MD will have lasting effects on morale as it’s guys with 20-30+ years to go. Just watching it unfold. Show up when scheduled, can’t change what can’t be controlled. One thing is for sure, the next contract will need to address training scheduling on bids. If you can’t plan for 365 when you want to move, you really can’t plan for when you don’t. That’s a massive QOL issue.

tunes

and its going to take about 6 weeks for ALPA scheduling to get to your email.

hockeypilot44

Rumor has it ALPA is trying to negotiate everyone down to 60 in return for a furlough protection letter. I wouldn't count on them for help.

CX500T

As a "was UNA as soon as possible" guy, I'm going to say a big fat f'n NO to that.

This reeks of the legendary "Bankruptcy Protection Letter" from the BK era.

No thanks. Give me my full (well, as close as 717 vs 7ER is) pay until the last day.

TED74

By "ALPA", do you mean "44"?

Drum

The first 3 words of his post tell you its BS "Rumor has it". C66 sent out an email the other day. They would "love" to tell us what's going on, but they can't. They don't want to affect the negotiations with the kompany. They also said not to pay attention to "rumors" on social media. So with that, I am not paying attention to what hockeypilot wrote up there.

We'll see the offer soon enough.

Agree with you CX - any BPL or such is gonna be a big NO vote from me.

hockeypilot44

Maybe. Not sure what to believe.

Drum

I don't think it matters where the junior to you guys are with respect to furlough. The kompany doesn't have to UNA them before they furlough them. Furloughs do respect seniority. So even though that person junior is still on equipment, they will get furloughed before you.

I whole heatedly agree with you about the contract and training. That is something we need to clean up in future contracts.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. They are either going to furlough all 2327 of us, or there are going to be reinstatements and one or more AEs to clean up the manning holes they have created from the MOAD.

WhiskeyDelta

ALPA helps me when I can’t get something fixed myself or it’s such an egregious violation that I know the company won’t even entertain a quick fix. Just the way I’m wired - try to help myself before burdening others with the task.

The order of help that I put in that post isn’t a rigid call list. Every situation may present a different path along that list.