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Old 07-26-2020, 02:01 PM   #1  
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I am in the market for new headphones and have decided to upgrade from standard in-ear to noise cancelling over ear. I am debating between the Bose QC 35 and the Sony WH-1000XM3. They retail for about the same price but the Sony is rated higher.

I currently use a Telex 850 in the plane and it has worked great in everything I've flown. I will be displaced to the 737 (as of now) next year and I know it is a loud cockpit.

My question comes down to buying the Sony and sticking with my Telex for the plane or going with the Bose and eventually get the Ufly mic for the plane.

I appreciate the advice!
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On this topic (mostly), I’m going to the ER shortly. What’s the common practice for headsets and which one do you recommend on those airplanes?


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I am in the market for new headphones and have decided to upgrade from standard in-ear to noise cancelling over ear. I am debating between the Bose QC 35 and the Sony WH-1000XM3. They retail for about the same price but the Sony is rated higher.

I currently use a Telex 850 in the plane and it has worked great in everything I've flown. I will be displaced to the 737 (as of now) next year and I know it is a loud cockpit.

My question comes down to buying the Sony and sticking with my Telex for the plane or going with the Bose and eventually get the Ufly mic for the plane.

I appreciate the advice!
Anecdotally, I feel like the Ufly mic itself introduces a lot of ambient noise into the hot mic on the 737. I much prefer flying with someone using the Bose A20, which seems to produce much less white noise and makes it a better experience for both pilots. I feel like the David Clark ANR headsets also produce excessive noise from the mic. I've never seen any data on this though...
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Just got UNA'd off the ER.

About 75% of the guys pre-covid were using ship's headsets (one ear DCs on most, TELEX on ex NWA planes and randoms)

I was going to 73NA, so I bought a DC PRO-X. They came in right about the time the world went stupid.

I've used them on the 2 ER 2 day trips I have flown since March. Not bad, I move the cup off the inside ear.

Never got a chance to check the ANR with both ears on the RJ commute, as I had to drive to those trips.
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Thanks man. Hopefully we get some ORF-NYC RJs back before long.


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I've flown with a couple guys now with the Sony's and really liked them with an Avee add on mic. The mic sounds really good so I've been considering them myself. The extra long boom option looks ideal (165mm).

https://getavee.com/product/avee-combination-kit/
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I am in the market for new headphones and have decided to upgrade from standard in-ear to noise cancelling over ear. I am debating between the Bose QC 35 and the Sony WH-1000XM3. They retail for about the same price but the Sony is rated higher.

I currently use a Telex 850 in the plane and it has worked great in everything I've flown. I will be displaced to the 737 (as of now) next year and I know it is a loud cockpit.

My question comes down to buying the Sony and sticking with my Telex for the plane or going with the Bose and eventually get the Ufly mic for the plane.

I appreciate the advice!
I tried both headphones you mentioned and went with the bose. I got the UFM not long ago (after flying with my own A20s, ship set DC pro X, ship set sennheisers, and my QC35 + an NFlightMic). QC35/UFM is by far my favorite setup both flying and commuting.
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Anecdotally, I feel like the Ufly mic itself introduces a lot of ambient noise into the hot mic on the 737. I much prefer flying with someone using the Bose A20, which seems to produce much less white noise and makes it a better experience for both pilots. I feel like the David Clark ANR headsets also produce excessive noise from the mic. I've never seen any data on this though...
Been using ufly mic for years, if the white noise is that high then their mic gain is probably set way too high for that aircraft. The older ones are harder to adjust, newer “harmony” mics I believe have a thumb wheel adjustable gain or something easier than the eyeglass screwdriver on the old models
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I was using the WN-issued Telex 850, and bought the Bose QC25, waiting for the ‘Harmony’ product to be Fed certified (TSO’d?).

I must have waited 18-24 months without certification, so I elected to get the Bose A20. I am very pleased with the A20, although I can’t give a comparison to the QC25/UFly combo.

I just didn’t want the hassle of a line check with the non-TSO’d headset.
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I was using the WN-issued Telex 850, and bought the Bose QC25, waiting for the ‘Harmony’ product to be Fed certified (TSO’d?).

I must have waited 18-24 months without certification, so I elected to get the Bose A20. I am very pleased with the A20, although I can’t give a comparison to the QC25/UFly combo.

I just didn’t want the hassle of a line check with the non-TSO’d headset.
Had UFly Harmony now for almost 4 years. I think it’s never doing to get certified honestly. I already waited 2-3 years just for them to finally release the Harmony. Love the product but the company is a bit of a joke.
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