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08-24-2020, 11:33 AM
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1941
The voluntary measures currently on the table just don’t move the needle enough. It’s with this reality that we unfortunately will move forward to furlough 1,941 pilots in October. Letters to pilots hired on or after July 17, 2017, will be sent out later this week.
08-24-2020, 11:35 AM
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“If prior to October we’re able to reach an agreement with your elected representatives to meaningfully spread the available flying among all our pilots at a reduced expense, we can further reduce or avoid those furloughs.”
Classy way to further turn the screws on the pilots that are going to be around the longest. How excruciating this process must be for the most junior of us. In my experience pilots have very long memories.
Am I processing this correctly that they took the VEOP and then cut staffing further?
Classy way to further turn the screws on the pilots that are going to be around the longest. How excruciating this process must be for the most junior of us. In my experience pilots have very long memories.
Am I processing this correctly that they took the VEOP and then cut staffing further?
08-24-2020, 11:37 AM
#3
Dabbling in Pacifism
Joined APC: Aug 2011
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Agreed, it’s sad...
08-24-2020, 11:38 AM
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called it last week, i knew JL would be back with a "if ALPA doesnt give us an ALV reduction we will furlough". This is managements playbook. Hold the line. They have done absolutely nothing to explore voluntary measures like they have constantly claimed they would.
08-24-2020, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bert Sampson
“If prior to October we’re able to reach an agreement with your elected representatives to meaningfully spread the available flying among all our pilots at a reduced expense, we can further reduce or avoid those furloughs.”
Classy way to further turn the screws on the pilots that are going to be around the longest. How excruciating this process must be for the most junior of us. In my experience pilots have very long memories.
Classy way to further turn the screws on the pilots that are going to be around the longest. How excruciating this process must be for the most junior of us. In my experience pilots have very long memories.
On the bright side, the real negotiating is about to begin in earnest. About time.
08-24-2020, 11:39 AM
#6
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Joined APC: Dec 2019
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Seems like the VEOP to UNA saved ratio was just about 3:1
08-24-2020, 11:42 AM
#7
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 366
Oh well. At least I won’t get gummed over on the holidays this year.
08-24-2020, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
called it last week, i knew JL would be back with a "if ALPA doesnt give us an ALV reduction we will furlough". This is managements playbook. Hold the line. They have done absolutely nothing to explore voluntary measures like they have constantly claimed they would.
08-24-2020, 11:56 AM
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So what’s the seniority cut off number that is now safe?
08-24-2020, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Expat87
So what’s the seniority cut off number that is now safe?
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