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notEnuf 09-02-2020 05:55 AM

Cowen Conference
 
Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) will present at the Cowen Global Transportation and Sustainable Mobility Conference at 8 a.m. ET on Wednesday, September 9, 2020.

https://news.delta.com/delta-present...ity-conference

Cowen link:

https://wsw.com/webcast/cowen69/regi...69/dal/1771035

notEnuf 09-08-2020 04:05 AM

bump... tomorrow

notEnuf 09-09-2020 05:33 AM

Reaffirmed $27M/day cash burn. Any deeper cuts would have structural impacts and hinder a recovery. Business travel still not coming back. Leisure travel is now close in booking. $15-16B in cash. Credit card doing well. Next update in earnings call for Q3 2nd week of October.

Denny Crane 09-09-2020 07:22 AM

I’m assuming that $27 million/day burn and comments about further cost cutting hindering a recovery is before a pilot furlough? Makes one think...

Denny

WhiskeyDelta 09-09-2020 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3124828)
I’m assuming that $27 million/day burn and comments about further cost cutting hindering a recovery is before a pilot furlough? Makes one think...

Denny


Makes the estimated $1M/day to furlough 1941 pilots almost seem...unnecessary...in light of not being able to reduce costs even more without impacting the recovery.

mikea72580 09-09-2020 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3124717)
Reaffirmed $27M/day cash burn. Any deeper cuts would have structural impacts and hinder a recovery. Business travel still not coming back. Leisure travel is now close in booking. $15-16B in cash. Credit card doing well. Next update in earnings call for Q3 2nd week of October.

Thanks for the brief.

Big E 757 09-10-2020 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3124828)
I’m assuming that $27 million/day burn and comments about further cost cutting hindering a recovery is before a pilot furlough? Makes one think...

Denny


Dela management wants to have everyone in fat categories so we can be ready to pounce when people decide Covid isn’t as scary as they’re being led to believe by the media. And they are correct, in my opinion. If we furlough, and bump and flush, it’ll take years to catch up, if a recovery occurs rapidly. I just flew 10 legs in 4 days, and all but one or two flights were as full as we could be, under our restricted load factor. I know it was a holiday weekend, but it’s obvious, at least to me, that slowly, people are getting over their Covid fears and getting on with their lives. This holiday season, I think people will come back in force, and by next summer, vaccine or not, we will be making money again, with business travelers back as well. It would be silly to train and retrain thousands of pilots. We can’t do it, and they don’t want to. They just want cost savings while we are at it, with an ALV reduction, that will affect the international categories, way more than domestic.

Just my $.02 whether you like it or not. (Not directed at you, Denny)

iaflyer 09-10-2020 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 3125620)
Delta management wants to have everyone in fat categories so we can be ready to pounce when people decide Covid isn’t as scary as they’re being led to believe by the media. And they are correct, in my opinion. If we furlough, and bump and flush, it’ll take years to catch up, if a recovery occurs rapidly. I just flew 10 legs in 4 days, and all but one or two flights were as full as we could be, under our restricted load factor. I know it was a holiday weekend, but it’s obvious, at least to me, that slowly, people are getting over their Covid fears and getting on with their lives.

I traveling with the family for vacation twice in the last month, to nearby vacation spots by car. Both places were busy - restaurants were "full" to the capacity guidelines with a 45 minute wait at every place we tried. People were out and about.

I really think people want to travel - the problem is where... example: Glacier National Park is half closed - mostly because an Indian reservation on the East side isn't allowing anyone in. Several of the hotels/motels in the park are closed. So if you want to visit, and go outdoors and enjoy the scenery, it's difficult. So I'm sure some people are saying "Why fly all the way there?" Also, many of the small tourist sites are closed or very limited hours. Again - why travel when there is little to see?

Multiply that times everywhere else people like to visit...

So I think the demand is there, it's just there are many restrictions to things to see.

hockeypilot44 09-11-2020 04:22 AM

I would at least wait until the presidential election is over before doing anything drastic.

Big E 757 09-11-2020 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 3126467)
I traveling with the family for vacation twice in the last month, to nearby vacation spots by car. Both places were busy - restaurants were "full" to the capacity guidelines with a 45 minute wait at every place we tried. People were out and about.

I really think people want to travel - the problem is where... example: Glacier National Park is half closed - mostly because an Indian reservation on the East side isn't allowing anyone in. Several of the hotels/motels in the park are closed. So if you want to visit, and go outdoors and enjoy the scenery, it's difficult. So I'm sure some people are saying "Why fly all the way there?" Also, many of the small tourist sites are closed or very limited hours. Again - why travel when there is little to see?

Multiply that times everywhere else people like to visit...

So I think the demand is there, it's just there are many restrictions to things to see.


Interesting. My understanding is that, WRT Glacier National Park, the Eastern Europeans who normally work there in the summer didn’t come over this year, which is why some hotels and parts of the park are closed.

It still hurts tourism and travel. Another Covid casualty.

TransWorld 09-11-2020 02:08 PM

Election Day is Nov 3rd. Things will open up Nov 4th.

WhiskeyDelta 09-11-2020 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3126965)
Election Day is Nov 3rd. Things will open up Nov 4th.


Just recently some one high up in the Los Angeles county education system stated that their schools won’t open until after the election. I think we don’t appreciate how many people are waiting for this election to pass...for a variety of reasons.

TransWorld 09-11-2020 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 3126975)
Just recently some one high up in the Los Angeles county education system stated that their schools won’t open until after the election. I think we don’t appreciate how many people are waiting for this election to pass...for a variety of reasons.

My grandmother used to give Castor Oil. She always said this too shall pass. Not sure which is worse.

WhiskeyDelta 09-11-2020 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3126981)
My grandmother used to give Castor Oil. She always said this too shall pass. Not sure which is worse.


Too funny, my aunt drank castor oil to help induce her first pregnancy.

Drum 09-11-2020 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3126965)
Election Day is Nov 3rd. Things will open up Nov 4th.

I subscribe to this belief as well.

boog123 09-11-2020 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3127027)
I subscribe to this belief as well.

Interested is buying a bridge?

KnotSoFast 09-12-2020 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3127027)
I subscribe to this belief as well.


.
Oh, I get it now. This virus story is just a huge conspiracy by the deep state, who communicate thru the dark web orchestrating this tragedy. They have successfully tricked tens of thousands of healthcare professionals into believing that all of the sick people arriving at the hospitals have this “novel” virus. And come November 4th, it will all suddenly disappear.

GET. A. LIFE.

.

KnotSoFast 09-12-2020 07:53 AM

(Ferris Bueller is behind this. There is no doubt in my mind, and now, he's got Sloane Peterson involved in this thing. And the grandmother too.)

All 5 Stages 09-12-2020 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 3126975)
Just recently some one high up in the Los Angeles county education system stated that their schools won’t open until after the election. I think we don’t appreciate how many people are waiting for this election to pass...for a variety of reasons.

It was Barbara Ferrer, L.A. County Public Health Director:

"So we don’t realistically anticipate we will be moving to tier 2 or to reopening K-12 schools at least until after the election, after, you know, in early November. When we just look at the timing of everything it seems to us the more realistic approach to this would be to think that we’re going to be where we are now until we get, until after we are done with the election."

A5S

m3113n1a1 09-12-2020 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by KnotSoFast (Post 3127459)
.
Oh, I get it now. This virus story is just a huge conspiracy by the deep state, who communicate thru the dark web orchestrating this tragedy. They have successfully tricked tens of thousands of healthcare professionals into believing that all of the sick people arriving at the hospitals have this “novel” virus. And come November 4th, it will all suddenly disappear.

GET. A. LIFE.

.

You forgot the part where they kidnap baby children and drink their blood. :D

FangsF15 09-12-2020 08:52 AM

Not that I care about the Cowen Conference, but...

There is a dedicated thread for all this arguing.

TransWorld 09-12-2020 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 3126989)
Too funny, my aunt drank castor oil to help induce her first pregnancy.

Did it pass?

APCbot 09-13-2020 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by KnotSoFast (Post 3127468)
(Ferris Bueller is behind this. There is no doubt in my mind, and now, he's got Sloane Peterson involved in this thing. And the grandmother too.)

And he was right...

FangsF15 09-13-2020 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by APCbot (Post 3128045)
And he was right...

LMAO. Pwned.


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