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Old 03-13-2021, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bsh932 View Post
Thanks for the info. I’m currently on the 320, but 330 and 350 SLI might be appealing. I have 10 month old twins and one on the way, so I’m sure my wife would love for me to be home every night. Plus I’m one of the UNAs returning to flight status, so there is no telling what base and airplane I’m gonna get on this AE. This might be a good way to guarantee I stay in ATL. Any current SLIs care to share their experiences about quality of life?

Twin 10 month olds and one on the way? Your poor wife. And I’m sure the past year hasn’t done your insides any favors. Glad to hear you’re coming back, and hopefully the instructor thing works out, for your family’s sake.
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Old 03-13-2021, 05:35 PM
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How do the fly months work? Do you pick them or are they just assigned? What about vacation?
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Old 03-14-2021, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NoDeskJob View Post
you pick the 6 days! 😁

technically only 4 of the 6 are golden, but I never had the other 2 denied.

The 320 sims did not run on Thanksgiving or Xmas. I don’t know about other fleets
I believe they ran over Thanksgiving this past year.
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Old 03-14-2021, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bsh932 View Post
How do the fly months work? Do you pick them or are they just assigned? What about vacation?
I'm currently on my first fly month since July.

In theory you bid/assigned your yearly flying January ish. In my dept it's four months flying, and I know which months I'm supposed to fly. The theory is two months sim, one month on the line. The reality is not that. PWA requires 120 hours a year.

If you like to teach, it is a fantastic job. It has been great for my family

You bid vacation within your department. It works out quite nicely.

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I have heard the 320 has had over 200 apps this last window alone. Three years ago the fleets had a much harder time hiring thanks to the six month captain upgrades. That’s said, I wonder when we return to quick upgrades if the applicant pool will shrink again. 🤔
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I noticed they are hiring SLIs again. I'm still considering it. My understanding is that you fly 3 months out of the year. Do you fly 3 months in a row or are the months spread out through the year. What is a typical schedule? I know you work 17 events per month, but I was curious how many days in a row you can expect. Can you get some weekends off as a new guy? Thanks for any input from current or former SLIs.

4 months out of the year...once a quarter scheduled. That being said, I’ve been unrotated from the line on my last 2 fly months


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4 months out of the year...once a quarter scheduled. That being said, I’ve been unrotated from the line on my last 2 fly months


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Is "unrotated" and not flying the line requirement what the union was filing a grievance for?
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Is "unrotated" and not flying the line requirement what the union was filing a grievance for?

Sort of...

I know several SLI who have been “unrotated”or “retained” in the department for 11 months straight. Just because it’s legal, doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. It’s mathematically possible to go 18 months straight in department.

As an SLI you must rotate for 3 bid periods per year (tied to the vacation year) and get 120 hours of credit. The real question is, what’s credit. (Should be block time, but it’s not) It is tracked very closely now.

IIRC, the grievance is that some instructors didn’t get 120 hours in the year, when flying opportunities existed.


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I know several SLI who have been “unrotated”or “retained” in the department for 11 months straight. Just because it’s legal, doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. It’s mathematically possible to go 18 months straight in department.

As an SLI you must rotate for 3 bid periods per year (tied to the vacation year) and get 120 hours of credit. The real question is, what’s credit. (Should be block time, but it’s not) It is tracked very closely now.

IIRC, the grievance is that some instructors didn’t get 120 hours in the year, when flying opportunities existed.


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Is "unrotated" and not flying the line requirement what the union was filing a grievance for?


Part of it yes. 120 credit hours on line required....but there is a caveat in section 11 that allows for relief if they can’t cover the sim schedule.

The PWA says credit...block hours is obviously the intent though. Fleets used to harp on block hours but when COVID hit they went back to “well the PWA only says credit”


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Old 03-14-2021, 01:37 PM
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Interpretation again. Words have meanings, if it says credit, then it says credit. I just find it humorous that these interpretations always seem to be in the company’s favor and justified by need. Language matters because intent is lost over time as people leave positions and policies evolve. Thanks for the information.
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