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Old 09-22-2020, 03:18 PM   #21  
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Also, what is “qual” training? Initial qual? CQ? Re-qual? Bounces?
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Everything on here is voluntary. If you don’t like it, don’t bid it. Very trustingly the company agreed to a either-party-30-day-notice-pulldown provision.
What’s the downside?
Mil pilots should find this very appealing if you can get some longer term orders.
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Everything on here is voluntary. If you don’t like it, don’t bid it. Very trustingly the company agreed to a either-party-30-day-notice-pulldown provision.
What’s the downside?
Mil pilots should find this very appealing if you can get some longer term orders.

speaking of, I saw the month to month leaves allow mil pilots to work their guard/reserve gig and still collect guarantee, does anyone know if this is true for the 12 month lines? Could a mil pilot take a 1 year orders and still collect 35 hour/month? If so that would be a huge win for all of us
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It is out. I will stick this here for comments. Here are is my quick take:

Blank Lines that pay a minimum of 25 hours per month.
Ultra Long Call Reserve (24 hour call out and no SCs) - Pays 80% of Reserve guarantee.
Continuous Blank Line (12 months in a row) - Minimum pay as 35 hours per month.
RLLs - not sure what is different than we already have.

Possibly some changes to the trip coverage steps - I didn't have time to go through and compare the new coverage sequence with our current PWA.

To me the most interesting part is the ULC Reserve - probably tempting for commuters.

Also looks like some very "squishy" wording. The company "may" do this and "may not" so after the whole SIL fiasco put me down as skeptical.

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This is interesting. I haven't seen anything from the union personally, but does this come with a reduction in on-call days? Hopefully approximately a 20% reduction?
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This is interesting. I haven't seen anything from the union personally, but does this come with a reduction in on-call days? Hopefully approximately a 20% reduction?
15 days on call per month
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(and 16 days off on a 31 day month)
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(and 16 days off on a 31 day month)
Well in that case...
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Everything on here is voluntary. If you don’t like it, don’t bid it. Very trustingly the company agreed to a either-party-30-day-notice-pulldown provision.
What’s the downside?
Mil pilots should find this very appealing if you can get some longer term orders.
Well there is an awful lot of "the company may." Kinda like the company "may" offer SILs... As a mil guy, the 35 hour line looks very appealing, IF (which is a big if) they actually offer these things. But the "may offer" and "upon completion of necessary programming" doesn't really impress me.


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speaking of, I saw the month to month leaves allow mil pilots to work their guard/reserve gig and still collect guarantee, does anyone know if this is true for the 12 month lines? Could a mil pilot take a 1 year orders and still collect 35 hour/month? If so that would be a huge win for all of us
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Yup, you could do that. It's written right in the LOA...LOA 20-03 D.9. Of course, they MAY not offer them...
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That's all great, but do we vote on this or not?
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(and 16 days off on a 31 day month)
Extra X-day for reserve manning? Whats the GS trigger?
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