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Old 10-31-2020, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by All 5 Stages View Post
Does passing by 93 votes trigger an automatic recount? I'm thinking hanging chads, here, and the strong likelihood of disenfranchised ALPA voters. Time to get the lawyers involved ...

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My ballot was confusing. They two different boxes to click were ambiguous. I feel like that I was unfairly influenced by the wording.
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Old 10-31-2020, 01:21 PM
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Does passing by 93 votes trigger an automatic recount? I'm thinking hanging chads, here, and the strong likelihood of disenfranchised ALPA voters. Time to get the lawyers involved ...

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it’s electronic.
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Old 10-31-2020, 01:46 PM
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My ballot was confusing. They two different boxes to click were ambiguous. I feel like that I was unfairly influenced by the wording.
Not only did I not receive a sample ballot, but nowhere was I able to vote Kanye West.

I'm taking a stand for all of those disenfranchised ALPA voters that were confused by the wording, those voters who were unjustly forced to vote electronically, and for all of those voters that were shamed into using English and not his native language.

This is "Not my LOA!" We must start a Resistance. Who's with me?

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Old 10-31-2020, 07:05 PM
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it’s electronic.
We can vote by mail.
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Massive voter fraud.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:25 AM
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More ammo that the company needs to pay attention to the pilot group
From a purely negotiating perspective, such a narrow pass can mean the Company paid very good attention and gave up just enough to get a 50%+1.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq View Post
From a purely negotiating perspective, such a narrow pass can mean the Company paid very good attention and gave up just enough to get a 50%+1.
Keep in mind, the company is constantly undermining the Negotiating Committee as a couple well fed union slobs who dont represent the desires of the pilots, and that pilots (all employees) are much more reasonable than those "out of touch" negotiators.

That's why the company starts negotiating in public. This supposed wide majority of reasonable pilots will put pressure on the MEC and show the reps union they're out of touch.

There is a natural drive to please the guy signing your checks (management/company), which is why real unions negotiate for you, and then pay you as their employee. Pilots dont embrace that level of unionism.

Management had a little problem with violating our trust. They have an unrealistic expectation for us to go out on unemployment like the FAs. They probably STILL don't understand what our problem is, and why we won't "get onboard for the team win, soldier".

Either way, the company has a lot of costs they need to manage, we can help and they can share savings with us, or we can make them bleed for it. Teamwork is what makes the dream work
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Old 11-01-2020, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
Anyone see that 115 submitted a ballot that didn’t have a selection made? What’s up with that?


If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice


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Old 11-01-2020, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr View Post
If you choose not to decide
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Well, yeah, no decision is a decision. But, I’m more curious why someone would log-in to access their ballot but not select an option. Doing this had absolutely no impact on the outcome. Just seems a little weird in by book.
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
Well, yeah, no decision is a decision. But, I’m more curious why someone would log-in to access their ballot but not select an option. Doing this had absolutely no impact on the outcome. Just seems a little weird in by book.
They probably had a vote in and then when 20-04 AIP was released then wanted to abstain. In order to do that they would have to submit an empty ballot to remove the original vote.

Im not sure if that is true or not but it makes sense to me.
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