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Originally Posted by Ursula
(Post 3134394)
I'm not sure how you conclude Ed's pay. He gave up his salary and his options if he has any are probably worthless because the strike price is too high. His RSUs are worth half what they were issued at, so his total compensation is down at least 50%. Meanwhile he's still working his hours. By that example you'd be flying an 80 hour line at 40 hour pay.
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
(Post 3134383)
Making him admit that we are closer to him than a baggage handler in the overall scheme of things is what we need. |
Originally Posted by BlaneO
(Post 3134081)
I just watched Ed's townhall from today and was enfuriated by it.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3134456)
Wait, pilots actually believe this?
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3134456)
Wait, pilots actually believe this?
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3134501)
The delusional egos of pilots. Flight attendants and gate agents have way more effect on Delta's success than us. You could replace us with thousands of other airline's pilots and no one would even notice! Replace the CEO and everyone would notice.
You’ve got it all wrong. On several points. First, pilots are closer to the CEO than they are to baggage handlers on a macro level. As in 12000-plus pilots as a group. On a micro level, sure, we are easily replaced by the next bubba in line. The difference there is Delta can hire any able-bodied person off the street and make them a baggage handler. To my knowledge, Delta has created zero pilots in their long history. When you drop the humble act and acknowledge this fact, you realize that this is the distinction that makes it more realistic for a baggage handler to take an “unpaid” leave versus the pilot group or the CEO. |
Originally Posted by GucciBoy
(Post 3134525)
You’ve got it all wrong. On several points. First, pilots are closer to the CEO than they are to baggage handlers on a macro level. As in 12000-plus pilots as a group. On a micro level, sure, we are easily replaced by the next bubba in line. The difference there is Delta can hire any able-bodied person off the street and make them a baggage handler. To my knowledge, Delta has created zero pilots in their long history.
When you drop the humble act and acknowledge this fact, you realize that this is the distinction that makes it more realistic for a baggage handler to take an “unpaid” leave versus the pilot group or the CEO. |
Originally Posted by GucciBoy
(Post 3134525)
You’ve got it all wrong. On several points. First, pilots are closer to the CEO than they are to baggage handlers on a macro level. As in 12000-plus pilots as a group. On a micro level, sure, we are easily replaced by the next bubba in line. The difference there is Delta can hire any able-bodied person off the street and make them a baggage handler. To my knowledge, Delta has created zero pilots in their long history.
When you drop the humble act and acknowledge this fact, you realize that this is the distinction that makes it more realistic for a baggage handler to take an “unpaid” leave versus the pilot group or the CEO. Foreign carriers do it all the time. Delta is just going the cheaper route (for now) due to ample supply. |
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3134501)
The delusional egos of pilots. Flight attendants and gate agents have way more effect on Delta's success than us. You could replace us with thousands of other airline's pilots and no one would even notice! Replace the CEO and everyone would notice.
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3134568)
You don't think Delta could hire able bodied people off the street and turn them into pilots too??
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3134568)
You don't think Delta could hire able bodied people off the street and turn them into pilots too??
Foreign carriers do it all the time. Delta is just going the cheaper route (for now) due to ample supply. Then why did you bother going through all the trouble? You could’ve been a ramper inside of a week. Could’ve saved years of effort, and you wouldn’t have to worry about furloughs. It looks like you made a poor choice. |
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