Capped Res Days
#11
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I recommend an email to the scheduling committee. Swaps are completely automated per the contract. About once a year there's a similar complaint to yours. EVERY time, without exception, it turns out there's more to the story and the swap denial was appropriate. The numbers were misinterpreted, the trip the guy is trying to swap into is a Q trip, not a true uncovered trip, the "4 day" ended with a red-eye and was actually a 5 day, etc etc.
That doesn't mean that mistakes aren't possible, just that the contract allows for same day for same day swaps, regardless of numbers.
That doesn't mean that mistakes aren't possible, just that the contract allows for same day for same day swaps, regardless of numbers.
#13
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#14
This really needs to be fixed on the next contract. There's a bunch of problems here. First, I understand they need to protect certain holidays. Hence, there should be holiday pay. Need a better argument? All of the other work groups get holiday pay. So should we. Optics and all. Second, any day they treat as a holiday (i.e., 1 day before and 2 days after the associated holiday where they limit trip trading, drops and X-day moves) should also pay "holiday pay". Why not? They're getting 4 days out of every holiday they declare, limiting our ability to drop, swap or move X-days. If they don't want to pay holiday pay for ALL of those extra days, they don't get to protect them. Payback days should be treated the same on holidays as any other day. You earned them, often times by them violating your off days. This mess really needs to be fixed...as well as the crappy IT programming that won't let you swap equal trips within these "protected days."
#15
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This really needs to be fixed on the next contract. There's a bunch of problems here. First, I understand they need to protect certain holidays. Hence, there should be holiday pay. Need a better argument? All of the other work groups get holiday pay. So should we. Optics and all. Second, any day they treat as a holiday (i.e., 1 day before and 2 days after the associated holiday where they limit trip trading, drops and X-day moves) should also pay "holiday pay". Why not? They're getting 4 days out of every holiday they declare, limiting our ability to drop, swap or move X-days. If they don't want to pay holiday pay for ALL of those extra days, they don't get to protect them. Payback days should be treated the same on holidays as any other day. You earned them, often times by them violating your off days. This mess really needs to be fixed...as well as the crappy IT programming that won't let you swap equal trips within these "protected days."
#16
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This really needs to be fixed on the next contract. There's a bunch of problems here. First, I understand they need to protect certain holidays. Hence, there should be holiday pay. Need a better argument? All of the other work groups get holiday pay. So should we. Optics and all. Second, any day they treat as a holiday (i.e., 1 day before and 2 days after the associated holiday where they limit trip trading, drops and X-day moves) should also pay "holiday pay". Why not? They're getting 4 days out of every holiday they declare, limiting our ability to drop, swap or move X-days. If they don't want to pay holiday pay for ALL of those extra days, they don't get to protect them. Payback days should be treated the same on holidays as any other day. You earned them, often times by them violating your off days. This mess really needs to be fixed...as well as the crappy IT programming that won't let you swap equal trips within these "protected days."
#17
I want 101.
I agree with you here. A contract isn’t always going to be one sided. This is one of the negatives of this business, having to work holidays. The sooner you get over it and teach your family to get over it, the happier you’ll be. I’m ecstatic I have 1/2 of Xmas eve and all Xmas day off. Ecstatic! I told my neighbor and he started apologizing and feeling sorry for me. And here I was thinking I hit the powerball. As sailing said, holiday pay isn’t really what it’s cracked up to be and I doubt we will be getting blanket greenies to work on traditionally very busy periods. These periods are why we staff the air line.
I agree with you here. A contract isn’t always going to be one sided. This is one of the negatives of this business, having to work holidays. The sooner you get over it and teach your family to get over it, the happier you’ll be. I’m ecstatic I have 1/2 of Xmas eve and all Xmas day off. Ecstatic! I told my neighbor and he started apologizing and feeling sorry for me. And here I was thinking I hit the powerball. As sailing said, holiday pay isn’t really what it’s cracked up to be and I doubt we will be getting blanket greenies to work on traditionally very busy periods. These periods are why we staff the air line.
#18
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Every time someone complains about being unable to do so, there's always more to the story.
#20
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
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I'm having this problem currently. Convenient we don't get an extra day of pay for being released after midnight like United does though!
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