30 Million Americans Vaccinated In 25 Days
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#362
States were required to submit vaccine distribution plans to Operation Warp Speed no later than 16 October.
People want to point fingers at the federal government, but ultimate responsibility falls to each individual state.
Look at New York. Cuomo threatens fines if vaccines are given out of order and so unused vaccine gets thrown away instead of being administered because there was some left over. TF sense does that make? Okay, that info goes public, citizens & politicians get mad about the stupidity of it, then guidance changes, then it changes again when similar stuff happens.
Tiny little rural West Virginia is doing the best job per-capita at vaccine distribution...that should embarrass states with large urban centers, centralized populations, etc.
People want to point fingers at the federal government, but ultimate responsibility falls to each individual state.
Look at New York. Cuomo threatens fines if vaccines are given out of order and so unused vaccine gets thrown away instead of being administered because there was some left over. TF sense does that make? Okay, that info goes public, citizens & politicians get mad about the stupidity of it, then guidance changes, then it changes again when similar stuff happens.
Tiny little rural West Virginia is doing the best job per-capita at vaccine distribution...that should embarrass states with large urban centers, centralized populations, etc.
#363
Genuine question, why do states with early mask mandates and hard lockdowns have worse case/death stats than states who didn’t? They certainly aren’t noticeably better. Does it seem reasonable to question why there is not a massive difference in those stats between states that took different approaches? I don’t have the answers, but it seems to me that if masks and lockdowns were the panacea, NY, CA, NJ, MI would have vastly better case rates and fewer deaths. Maybe it’s more complex that just that?
#364
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Confirmation bias mean anything to you? The Feds may have been able to do some things better, but the majority of the blame for things like poor vaccine rollout lie with the states.
Genuine question, why do states with early mask mandates and hard lockdowns have worse case/death stats than states who didn’t? They certainly aren’t noticeably better. Does it seem reasonable to question why there is not a massive difference in those stats between states that took different approaches? I don’t have the answers, but it seems to me that if masks and lockdowns were the panacea, NY, CA, NJ, MI would have vastly better case rates and fewer deaths. Maybe it’s more complex that just that?
Genuine question, why do states with early mask mandates and hard lockdowns have worse case/death stats than states who didn’t? They certainly aren’t noticeably better. Does it seem reasonable to question why there is not a massive difference in those stats between states that took different approaches? I don’t have the answers, but it seems to me that if masks and lockdowns were the panacea, NY, CA, NJ, MI would have vastly better case rates and fewer deaths. Maybe it’s more complex that just that?
but perhaps you meant the first paragraph to be directed to Mesabah?
#367
From the CDC update on Friday 8 Jan to Monday 11 Jan (today), the US added an average of more than 760k first vaccinations each day.
#368
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That can all be 100% true...but it does not change the objective reality that he purposefully misled the American people with regards to mask usage in March and April. If some people feel his misleading public statements were somehow okay or justified because of the righteousness behind his decision (avoiding a public rush on scarce medical PPE) then that's a fair debate to be had.
Frankly I don't see how anybody with a shred of objectivity can listen to the man's own statements in full context of interviews available on Youtube, combined with printed interviews, and not conclude he purposefully misled the American public in March and April on the topic of facial coverings.
Frankly I don't see how anybody with a shred of objectivity can listen to the man's own statements in full context of interviews available on Youtube, combined with printed interviews, and not conclude he purposefully misled the American public in March and April on the topic of facial coverings.
He shouldn’t have attended the baseball game/thrown the first pitch. Most people can’t go to games and so it looks bad. Also he’s our Public heath lead so the appearance of celebrity should be avoided.
More importantly, when it was obvious there was a huge divide between himself and Trump, I think resigning may have been the way to go. But it’s not clear-cut. I understand why Jim Mattis resigned but otoh you want people like Mattis working in government.
Back to the lying thing though…if we could get inside his mind to know for sure…I’d bet the house he’s told us the truth as best he knows it while working within the constraints of massive bureaucracy and a pandemic not seen in 100 years.
#369
It's likely Dr. Fauci intentionally misled the public for "the greater good". He wasn't promoting masks early on, because he saw the full stupidity of the American consumer on display in the toilet paper aisle of every grocery store. By not promoting masks, he was hoping to keep them available for healthcare workers while mask suppliers ramped up capacity. As far as moving the herd immunity number, he doesn't know the number and admitted so in an interview. When he saw it was likely we would reach his first guess, he confirmed upping his estimate to encourage higher vaccination rates.
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