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Old 01-14-2021, 01:01 PM   #381  
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...or anti-vaxxers in significant numbers (of whom I'm generally inclined to be sympathetic towards for various reasons).
Fear of the unknown is pretty common, but once they read the CDC site, or ask their doctor, they'll see there is no reason to fear these vaccines. You're being sympathetic towards people who refuse to learn.

The only people that need to be hesitant are pregnant women because they weren't included in the trials. They have no reason to believe pregnant woman are at risk, but since they lack data, they tell pregnant women to consult their doctor and assess their risk to exposure.
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Pretty much sums up this entire thread.........
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And how many in the airline pilot demographic will be taking the vaccine?
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Old 01-14-2021, 01:28 PM   #384  
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Now that he has come on record admitting the reason for the flip/flop, is it any wonder his credibility is in question? He further damages his credibility by moving the goal posts on herd immunity.
I agree the initial mask recommendation seems like it could have been handled better. Lying to us accomplished his goal of preserving masks for the healthcare workers, but it then created uncertainty with the general public later on.

As for his herd immunity estimate, it does seem like he initially upped it based on polling. He then diminished the influence that polling had on his estimate. Now he's settled on 70-85%.

I honestly think he means well, but his public relations could use some work.
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I agree the initial mask recommendation seems like it could have been handled better. Lying to us accomplished his goal of preserving masks for the healthcare workers, but it then created uncertainty with the general public later on.

As for his herd immunity estimate, it does seem like he initially upped it based on polling. He then diminished the influence that polling had on his estimate. Now he's settled on 70-85%.

I honestly think he means well, but his public relations could use some work.
So, he's the government's version of Bob S.?
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I agree the initial mask recommendation seems like it could have been handled better. Lying to us accomplished his goal of preserving masks for the healthcare workers, but it then created uncertainty with the general public later on.

As for his herd immunity estimate, it does seem like he initially upped it based on polling. He then diminished the influence that polling had on his estimate. Now he's settled on 70-85%.

I honestly think he means well, but his public relations could use some work.
Not uncertainty.

Credibility. He'll never get it back. If it was necessary to tell a big fat fib, that's fine. But he needed to go after the dissembling was complete, because every organization that he's associated with is now considered less-than-credible.

Probably unfair, but there it is. I'm very curious to see what the final numbers of willing vaccine receivers will be. Barring additional carrots and sticks, I'd guess around 60%.

We'll know in a few months.
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And how many in the airline pilot demographic will be taking the vaccine?
at least one here
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Not uncertainty.

Credibility. He'll never get it back. If it was necessary to tell a big fat fib, that's fine. But he needed to go after the dissembling was complete, because every organization that he's associated with is now considered less-than-credible.

Probably unfair, but there it is. I'm very curious to see what the final numbers of willing vaccine receivers will be. Barring additional carrots and sticks, I'd guess around 60%.

We'll know in a few months.
Yes, probably.

Besides, his credibility has no bearing on the safety of the vaccines. Fauci leads the NIAID, not the FDA.
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interesting data.

someone on this website posted that the death rate will be equal to or less than than last years death count. According to preliminary weekly data from the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) (as of January 6, 2021), 3,187,086 people died from all causes between January 1 and December 26, 2020.
thats already 300k more than 2019.
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interesting data.

someone on this website posted that the death rate will be equal to or less than than last years death count. According to preliminary weekly data from the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) (as of January 6, 2021), 3,187,086 people died from all causes between January 1 and December 26, 2020.
thats already 300k more than 2019.
What was the US population in 2019 vs 2020? What is the percentage of deaths YOY?
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