Phins2right

go look at how the mRNA experiential drug is instructing your DNA to produce the protein (which is the crux of the "vax" to begin with) that previously wasn't being produced by your own DNA.

such laziness on your part.

show me the source that says it doesn't. See, two can play that game OOOOOOFFFFFFF

DeltaboundRedux

Once the vaccine is widely available, I can't think of any reason why anyone who doesn't want it should get it, for whatever reason.

"But you could infect others!" - Well, no, because "others" can get the vaccine.

"Herd Immunity!" - Again, the herd can vax, and you can roll the dice with your own health.

"Mutations!" - Maybe something there. The slow global rollout of vaccines is far more to blame than foot draggers in the US.


#1 comorbidity (besides age) causing large mortality numbers in the US is obesity; also up there is Type II diabetes. High blood pressure. All VERY susceptible to treatment by some very basic and virtually free lifestyle changes.

This whole mess was at least as much about obesity as it was about covid.

gloopy

Not taking sides, just trying to learn.

If someone gets the actual virus (any virus for that matter, which we've all gotten some many, many times) doesn't that also technically do the same thing?

So even if this virus is highly survivable (and in many or even most cases with little to no symptoms) simply getting the actual virus does the same thing "genetically" as the vaccine, right? Either way the immune system sees, destroys and "learns" for the future right?

Don't all actual viruses "modify" or "instruct" your DNA somehow? Are they permanant as well? And if so, getting this virus with or without a vaccine seems inevitable statistically anyway. So does the vaccine do something to one's DNA that the virus we'll all get eventually anyway also do? Or is it different?

Iceberg

Are you saying that the mRNA instructs the DNA to produce this new protein and the byproduct is that it ceases to produce “the normal proteins required for life”? What makes you think that the DNA can not just add an additional protein to its workload?

As far as your wait for meth, I say go for it. YOLO!

RonRicco

I mean seriously. I am not slamming the vaccine, only pointing out that it may not be all sunshine and roses (whatever the saying is).

https://kutv.com/news/coronavirus/co...here-to-report

Viper25

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You also may have heard that the RNA in the vaccine is "modified". But it's not the way you think. Viruses, microbes, plants, humans, etc all have A, C, U, G as nucleotides that make up RNA. But the host cell (in this case human cells) needs a way to differentiate between invader RNA and it's own, so it can defend against invader RNA. One way to do that is to modify it's own RNA so it can tell the difference. Two ways it does that is by naturally converting some cytidines and uridines (at specific locations) to 5-methyl-cytidine and pseudouridine. Also, in order for mRNA to be turned into protein, the "5 prime triphosphate" group needs to be turned into a "5 prime cap". Again, I repeat, this occurs *naturally* in all human cells.

For the Moderna vaccine (btw, the name comes from "Modified RNA"), for example, the mRNA packaged in the lipid capsule has all these *natural* modifications. The reason for this is if they just used the usual A, C, U, G nucleotides, the cell would recognize this as an invader and quickly destroy it. Yes, these nucleotides are created synthetically for the vaccine, but they are chemically identical with the natural versions, and therefore in the cell they will behave exactly as natural versions.

And as mentioned before and in the tweet below, mRNA is a *****ass molecule. You look at it wrong and it degrades, into NATURALLY occurring breakdown products. Not only is it a *****ass molecule, but the cell has natural mRNA turnover processes to degrade the RNA shortly after it's created, so no need to worry about long term production of the spike protein that the vaccine mRNA encodes.

Also, there was animal testing.

Source. My friend who is a professor in molecular biology with a focus on microbiology and genomics.

edit: my friend also says: “If someone doesn't specialize in molecular biology, microbiology, or immunology, they have no standing claiming to be an expert on how the vaccine works”

OOfff

I’m not sure if you’re friend realizes that phins is married to a doctor who doesn’t specialize in any of those specialties. Tell him to check himself

theUpsideDown

I tell ya, i slept with a woman with the vaccine a couple days ago, by my math im am now vaccinated. I filled out my yellow card and signed it. *Pats self on back*

I just make stuff up, but you should believe me. Im a stranger on the internet.

OOfff

“show me a source that says god doesn’t exist. Haha you can’t, therefore he/she exists. Checkmate atheists”

Hank Kingsley

I know you're standing outside the Capitol today. It's over Johnny, I'll give you $50 for the hat with the horns.