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Old 12-07-2020, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine View Post
When you say you are upset that restaurants are closing, but what do you care about more; the 30 low wage employees, or the 3 people who invested in the business?
Both. The people who work there are probably less income secure but have access to things like unemployment that can help. That only lasts so long and if we are to help these people, those jobs need to come back.

the owners of most restaurants I know of are individuals who stand to lose their life savings if their restaurant fails.

I care about both, and want to see them survive for the sake of both groups. but the long term ramifications of a small business closing are usually harder felt by the owners than the employees. But the short term can definitely hit workers harder
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Old 12-07-2020, 06:03 PM
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I care about both
That's good to hear, but what would you do differently?

To me, there was no option that wouldn't harm people.
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine View Post
That's good to hear, but what would you do differently?

To me, there was no option that wouldn't harm people.
Assuming I was at the state/local level, probably along the lines of
-no concerts unless outdoors and provide adequate separation between guests (at least 6’ fenced off)
-masks in all indoor businesses except bars, restaurants, and gyms.
-masks when not at a table at bars/ restaurants (I’d get expert advise if this is good or bad given it requires people touching their face more)
- all businesses may operate at no more than 75% fire marshal capacity
-time limit for unemployment filed by anyone Over 60 is waived until they are offered a vaccine. (And no requirement to show looking for work)
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:21 PM
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You have no clue what you are talking about.
This just became incredibly clear to me as well.
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Old 12-07-2020, 10:43 PM
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How many people are gonna take the vaccine?




The regular flu kills 30-80k every year and look how many people don’t even bother to take the flu shot.
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HCQ is not a “known cure”. The only “clown” is deniers like you. Btw .02% of the US population is 7 million people. Let it spread and eventually everyone gets it. Mortality rate isnt the only issue. Just another flu eh? The let it spread till heard immunity crowd is out of their minds and takes their “science” from talking heads. We are basically trying the heard immunity thing right now and we had almost 3000 people die in a single day yesterday. Oh but wait it’s the 100s of doctors and medical examiners putting their licenses on the line to commit insurance fraud to get more money for the hospitals by inflating Covid deaths right? Covid case numbers are 6 times what they were in the Summer. Positivity rate is insanely high now. 10% more testing and 40-50% higher positivity rates. I’m surprised with someone with a spouse in the medical field being so obtuse. Anyway I know I’m just yelling into the void.
As soon as the election is over Covid 19 will go away. It’s just the Dems trying to push Trump out of office!
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Old 12-08-2020, 05:50 AM
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"No vacation without vaccination!"
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Old 12-08-2020, 07:04 AM
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My hunch is he resigns six months into his presidency.
Biden will never sit behind the Resolute desk.

Stop worrying about what he may or may not do. It's OBE.
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Biden will never sit behind the Resolute desk.

Stop worrying about what he may or may not do. It's OBE.
This won't age well, but it's a good reminder how gullible otherwise intelligent folks can be.
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Originally Posted by DenverPilot8 View Post
No I’m not absolutely sure man. But you guys seem to LOVE to quote how not deadly the virus is as the main reason why it’s not a big deal. What in our current situation makes you think that we are not heading towards at least a semblance of what I laid out if we were to follow the minimizers wishes? Seriously. Vaccines are gonna help I hope. But my argument stands against to people who deny deny deny, minimize and minimize. Does the virus just magically stop spreading then? Does the death rate not apply somehow? “only” .02% right? 300,000 dead already. Just give me the number of deaths where it becomes a big deal. What’s your number? Tear my argument apart with non political logic. I genuinely want to know
You don't have an argument.

The fact you say HCQ is not a cure? Wow. You are lost in the talking points. Where's your medical degree from again????

Take your vax like a good sheep. Wish you well.

Never should the cure be worse than the disease.
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