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Old 12-20-2020, 04:03 PM   #1  
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Looks like they came to a deal now need to vote on it. Deal includes $15 billion for airline relief but requires airlines to recall furloughed employees. We did not furlough. Wonder how this is going to affect Delta and what if management doesn't take the money. If I read the LOA correctly UNA's would come back to full pay.
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Will this be for 4 months?
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Looks like they came to a deal now need to vote on it. Deal includes $15 billion for airline relief but requires airlines to recall furloughed employees. We did not furlough. Wonder how this is going to affect Delta and what if management doesn't take the money. If I read the LOA correctly UNA's would come back to full pay.
management not taking the free money lol. They’ll take it . “Affected” pilots will go to UNA pay for an additional 4 months.
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Looks like they came to a deal now need to vote on it. Deal includes $15 billion for airline relief but requires airlines to recall furloughed employees. We did not furlough. Wonder how this is going to affect Delta and what if management doesn't take the money. If I read the LOA correctly UNA's would come back to full pay.
This is my understanding as well. Hopefully it prompts an AE to get at least a few people back to actual seats.

I can’t imagine they won’t take the grant, unless there are crazy stipulations, that would be beyond dumb.
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This is my understanding as well. Hopefully it prompts an AE to get at least a few people back to actual seats.



I can’t imagine they won’t take the grant, unless there are crazy stipulations, that would be beyond dumb.


Looks like a mirror of the CARES act stipulations. Just 2/3rds the amount of funding/months of furlough protection.


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Looks like a mirror of the CARES act stipulations. Just 2/3rds the amount of funding/months of furlough protection.


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Well it was 6 months of funding, we did 2+ months on our own. 4/6 of months covered.
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Lost my seat, my base, my seniority,my weekends. Now if I got recalled I have to commute cross country again, be home 6 days a month. Nope ill bypass aint enough cash for that nonesense. My kids are more important then any airplane
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What is the point of bringing unneeded employees back. Every airline in America has already dealt with the problem. Lots of stay home at low pay programs/leaves with benefits programs/early retirement programs etc...Very few actually furloughed or laid people off. The point is there is no need for 25-30% of capacity...So park it, lay off, furlough etc....Pretty clear to anyone that looks big picture that it is going to be a long slow grind back...Years and so be it.
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What is the point of bringing unneeded employees back. Every airline in America has already dealt with the problem. Lots of stay home at low pay programs/leaves with benefits programs/early retirement programs etc...Very few actually furloughed or laid people off. The point is there is no need for 25-30% of capacity...So park it, lay off, furlough etc....Pretty clear to anyone that looks big picture that it is going to be a long slow grind back...Years and so be it.
I agree going to be a long recovery. Several years before profits again. Loads are in the toilet but what’s really bad are the yields. Fares are very low, travel is a real bargain now if you want to go. The airline is still a bit of a mess in terms of staffing but they’ll finally get it under control in a few months.
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Just what we need...More debt for the country.
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