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Old 12-23-2020, 12:33 PM   #21  
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Without commenting on the merits of the case, kudos to her legal team beating a fortune 500 (or whatever delta is) in court. You don't see that everyday. Now to years and years of appeals?
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Old 12-23-2020, 01:45 PM   #22  
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Having been around for 34 years now, I can tell you that Delta has screwed the pooch on a number of occasions when it has come to HR. They used to have an AME on retainer in Houston who they sent problem pilots to see after they had returned to work with an up chit. The Dr. down there would find reasons to deny their medical and the pilots would end up in limbo before usually losing their jobs. Google Capt. WOW (Wayne O. Witter), an ATL based L1011 driver who went through that very process and ended up on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. Delta lost their case against him.


Or how about the Pan Am flight attendants who in their interviews to be hired into Delta during the merger with the part of Pan AM that was purchased were asked highly personal questions about their sex lives. As in: have you ever had an abortion? Delta was promptly sued in a NY state court and if I remember correctly paid out over 6 million in damages. At the time our CEO was one Ron Allen, as far as I know, the only airline CEO ever to come out of the Personnel ranks.


I would guess the departure of Dickson and Grahm from senior pilot leadership positions has something to do with this lawsuit.


Don't forget that ALPA labored for over a decade to get an ASAP program on the property. It came crashing down after several years when a 4th floor denizen decided to use restricted ASAP data to go after a former LEC Capt. rep. The MEC chair informed the SVP Flight Ops that ASAP was done. It only came back years later to help expedite the merger between Delta nd Northwest.


Our safety culture is not as deep as many would suspect and our HR processes obviously need some work.


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Old 12-23-2020, 06:08 PM   #23  
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"Dr" Pettit??!?! as in a PhD?? That is not a doctor. Furthermore, a "doctorate" from Humpty-Diddle?!!!

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How about just a "Delta Air Lines Pilot". That would be all that is required in this case.

So rather than discuss the actual issue (how a pilot was retaliated against and sent to a psychiatrist for reporting safety concerns) you want to discuss how she's undeserving of the title "doctor".... How many PhDs do you have? This poor woman lost 2 years of her career and you want to make fun of her?! This is gross. And I would argue sexist.
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So rather than discuss the actual issue (how a pilot was retaliated against and sent to a psychiatrist for reporting safety concerns) you want to discuss how she's undeserving of the title "doctor".... How many PhDs do you have? This poor woman lost 2 years of her career and you want to make fun of her?! This is gross. And I would argue sexist.
Keep in mind Phins is a total whack job. He claims to be married to a “doctor”, and him and his doctor spouse are followers of the crazy demon spawn doctor:

https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/rep...in-demon-sperm
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Keep in mind Phins is a total whack job. He claims to be married to a “doctor”, and him and his doctor spouse are followers of the crazy demon spawn doctor:

https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/rep...in-demon-sperm
now there's someone worthy of the title 😂
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So rather than discuss the actual issue (how a pilot was retaliated against and sent to a psychiatrist for reporting safety concerns) you want to discuss how she's undeserving of the title "doctor".... How many PhDs do you have? This poor woman lost 2 years of her career and you want to make fun of her?! This is gross. And I would argue sexist.
Discussion about the legal merits of this case on a public forum when all parties involved have demonstrated themselves to be quite litigious is perilous, to say the least. Not advised, obviously. This whole thread is begging for libel action.

Phins point sidesteps this (wise, IMHO), sidesteps it entirely and thread-drifts it into a discussion about “are all PhDs equal”? (Obviously not, in my opinion, because I’ve several “Dr.s”in the family and they are NOT all equal by a long shot. The NASA guy is brilliant, the Ehd gal who got it for for a public school pay bump is a moron...that’s just my roots though)

My .02...it’s worth reading the court transcripts and discovery interviews for a deeper understanding of some of the pilots you work with, and the company you work for, and insights into some senior management types at the FAA. Then yak about it in the cockpit if you dare, but not in a public forum.
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”The deepest irony of this whole “I’m a Republican so I only respect doctors who are medical doctors,” thing is that 300,000 Americans are dead because Republicans didn’t respect medical doctors.”
Yeah, because If we had Democrats, Conservative and Unionist, or Klingons in it would have been negative 20 deaths!
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Just to be clear, Phins to the Right is not ~~~/\~~~

So what are the important safety issues that were highlighted? What got fixed? ....

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Just to be clear, Phins to the Right is not ~~~/\~~~

So what are the important safety issues that were highlighted? What got fixed? ....
I think not eating at the Metzican joint before sim was one .
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Shhh DeltaboundRedux says it's better to make fun of her.
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