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Old 02-13-2021, 07:05 AM
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Filed on a Friday after business hours before a long weekend with no fanfare or mention on Deltanet. What a difference a year makes.

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https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...0003-index.htm


2019 10-k

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...0004-index.htm
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Old 02-13-2021, 07:28 AM
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So deliveries in 2021 and 2022 are about half of what was planned. Big pushes out on the 220 and 321, as well as 330neo spaced out more. Good thing the 737max and 787 will fill in the gaps!
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($17b) swing from 2019 to 2020... wow.
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Long term debt went from $8.8B to $27.4B.

My big magnifying glass is on the line item “Restructuring Charges” at $8.2B (almost as much as total salary costs). $3.4B was related to voluntary separation programs (more charges this year and next to further pay VEOP?) and the $4B related to aircraft parking/retirements. Not sure what/why/how is being accounted for in this figure.
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Originally Posted by Planetrain View Post
Long term debt went from $8.8B to $27.4B.

My big magnifying glass is on the line item “Restructuring Charges” at $8.2B (almost as much as total salary costs). $3.4B was related to voluntary separation programs (more charges this year and next to further pay VEOP?) and the $4B related to aircraft parking/retirements. Not sure what/why/how is being accounted for in this figure.
NOL carry forward offsets were running out. This year's (2020) loss will offset a lot of future profits. My prediction is Delta will not pay taxes for at least 5 more years which would mean 2 decades without paying taxes going back to the bankruptcy filing. That's an impressive bit of managing considering the "returned to investors" run they have had.


side note: this is why all my investments are now in tax advantaged accounts. With the MCBP that will only increase. I'm drooling just thinking of the wealth growth I could have with 20 years unencumbered by paying taxes.

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We are well positioned to kill it going forward. Covid will be looked at similar to a BK filing when looking back in 5 years or so without the stink that BK has on the company. We’ve trimmed a lot of fat and restructured the entire supply chain. Fleets are simplified and cash is cheap.

It won’t take much to see a profit and when things return to the new normal we are going to be happy with our PS checks once again.

It won’t be long to see it happen...
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah View Post
We are well positioned to kill it going forward. Covid will be looked at similar to a BK filing when looking back in 5 years or so without the stink that BK has on the company. We’ve trimmed a lot of fat and restructured the entire supply chain. Fleets are simplified and cash is cheap.

It won’t take much to see a profit and when things return to the new normal we are going to be happy with our PS checks once again.

It won’t be long to see it happen...
Now is the time to negotiate better Profit Sharing.

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Now is the time to negotiate better Profit Sharing.

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Originally Posted by All 5 Stages View Post
Now is the time to negotiate better Profit Sharing base salaries and work rules so we can reap the benefits when we earn them, not a year later, dependant on managerial decision making.
FIFY.

Filler.
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I understand what A5S is getting at, I don't think the company is so short-sighted to think PS won't be back, like they were when they originally negotiated PS. I love me some PS check, but I haven't thought much about not having it this year. It's a nice bonus, but I certainly don't plan on it. Keep it as is, and negotiate something else. Something tells me they're going to have a training issue soon...work with that. I'd be interested in some permanent gains in the work rules, for some temporary (as in a sunset) relief wrt training. I expect our new leader take advantage of the situation and get us some good, long-term gains. This time with some SET DATES of implementation and consequences if not met.
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