LOA to change TOE’s
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LOA to change TOE’s
Company and ALPA are currently in negotiations to change the way we do TOE’s. Expect to have an LOA in a couple of weeks. See Skyhub Live:Training. 30:37. Want to sunset TOE. Have IOE plus theater quals.
Haven’t heard anything from ALPA about this asking for our input.
Time to contact your reps. David
Haven’t heard anything from ALPA about this asking for our input.
Time to contact your reps. David
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Company and ALPA are currently in negotiations to change the way we do TOE’s. Expect to have an LOA in a couple of weeks. See Skyhub Live:Training. 30:37. Want to sunset TOE. Have IOE plus theater quals.
Haven’t heard anything from ALPA about this asking for our input.
Time to contact your reps. David
Haven’t heard anything from ALPA about this asking for our input.
Time to contact your reps. David
I wish that ALPA would say "hey, this item is being discussed with the company, can we have input to your reps about it?"
#3
I think the basic problem they are trying to solve is no/not enough international flying to get TOE done on the ER fleet. I understand the company's problem, but what if the company just never qualifies an Capt because "not enough TOE going on" and that pilot misses out on good international flying? Both in pay and experience. Or say he's a pilot who's 64 - what if they don't want to qualify him because he's retires soon? Many issues to think about.
I wish that ALPA would say "hey, this item is being discussed with the company, can we have input to your reps about it?"
I wish that ALPA would say "hey, this item is being discussed with the company, can we have input to your reps about it?"
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Company and ALPA are currently in negotiations to change the way we do TOE’s. Expect to have an LOA in a couple of weeks. See Skyhub Live:Training. 30:37. Want to sunset TOE. Have IOE plus theater quals.
Haven’t heard anything from ALPA about this asking for our input.
Time to contact your reps. David
Haven’t heard anything from ALPA about this asking for our input.
Time to contact your reps. David
#5
I foresee the same bottom 10 dudes flying all the double-red eyes to South America, while everyone else conveniently dodges the theater qual.
I certainly hope ALPA uses this to some advantage, and I’m all ears how they can do this. Indeed strange ALPA hasn’t asked for any input.
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#8
How would they pay protect someone who gets the ATL-FLL shuttle instead of ATL-FRA because the company never gave them their “theater qual”?
I foresee the same bottom 10 dudes flying all the double-red eyes to South America, while everyone else conveniently dodges the theater qual.
I certainly hope ALPA uses this to some advantage, and I’m all ears how they can do this. Indeed strange ALPA hasn’t asked for any input.
I foresee the same bottom 10 dudes flying all the double-red eyes to South America, while everyone else conveniently dodges the theater qual.
I certainly hope ALPA uses this to some advantage, and I’m all ears how they can do this. Indeed strange ALPA hasn’t asked for any input.
Wonder if the company is thinking of having LVPs do TOE or what's the proposed new name.. "International Theatre Qual"?
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#9
Like shadow bidding before OE PBS doesn't know you're not qualified. A non qualed pilot would be awarded intl trips they can hold and should be dropped with pay protection if they can't get qualed. Then they can WS or GS FLL shuttle, or stay home.
Wonder if the company is thinking of having LVPs do TOE or what's the proposed new name.. "International Theatre Qual"?
Wonder if the company is thinking of having LVPs do TOE or what's the proposed new name.. "International Theatre Qual"?
#10
It's like the red-eye issue from years ago. Someone leaked ALPA was discussing flying after a red-eye or something like that. Pilots inundated their reps with opinions and it was changed and that red-eye stuff was taken out at the last minute. Had someone not said it was going to happen, we would of been presented with a signed LOA. Now we do have voting approval for LOAs, which helps. But it would be nice to be able to give our opinions before an issue becomes an LOA.
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