Wolf424

I think that’s a bit overly conservative. I run mine between super chargers on road trips to 7-10%. Lowest I’ve been is 4% after I missed an exit and had to circle back 10 miles. Musk has recommended charging up to 90% for daily driving is fine. I sat mine at 85%. I can drive around town all day with no issues when I get home.

If you charged to 100% for a trip, you’d probably get close to 190 +/- 20 miles range at 75-80mph using the AC for the SR+. Higher end in warmer weather, lower end in the cold. For the long range, closer to 300 miles give or take 20 miles for weather. If you drive the speed limit, you’ll get some additional range. There’s websites out there that show you real data from real drivers and the range they get.

There are super chargers everywhere now. I’ve never been far from one. There’s also level 2 chargers at more locations around town than you think. And if you really screw up, you can use the 110 standard plug to trickle charge for about 1-2 miles of range per hour. (Never had to do that)

I’d recommend the long range if you live up north where you need AWD, or if you plan on taking a lot of road trips. But if you’re just driving around town and taking the occasional weekend getaway, SR+ will probably suffice.

gloopy

The 20% reserve is also what Tesla recommends for long term battery life. Of course its available to use if needed, but why plan on it when for almost no additional post resale money you can get the longer range, AWD and better performance?

You could take any current car and cut the size of the gas tank in half and it would do most "missions" just fine. But when needed it would be a real PITA.

I can't imagine any situation where I'd only get the SR+ when the next one up gives you so much more for so little extra.

Aero1900

Something I've always suspected but don't know for sure: do the Superchargers cause quicker battery life degradation?

I bet frequent Supercharging is bad for it

970pilot

Yes, but it’s not noticeable unless it’s your primary charging method. There’s a taxi company in California called Tesloop or something that strictly uses Tesla’s and supercharges them 100% of the time since they are constantly driving. I think a few of their early cars had their batteries die around 250,000 miles, but that a pretty extreme use case. Today they have a bunch of cars with over 400,000 miles on the odometer.

Apparently newer packs should last around 500,000 miles, or about 33 years of average driving. So far my Model 3 has been great over the past three years and the 120,000 mile warranty on the battery seemed reasonable.

Flownit

Batteries can be recycled to reclaim most of the important elements for re-use. Former Tesla Exec JB Straubel left Tesla to start a new company to do exactly that, both for Tesla vehicles as well as other manufacturers batteries.

I didn't buy our model 3 for the "green" factor. It still pollutes, but it pollutes where the power is produced and far less than an internal combustion engine which is comparatively inefficient compared to our power generation facilities. They refer to the emissions as long tailpipe vs short tailpipe. All told, I've spent less than $100 on electricity on the car over 24,000 miles. I have a time of use electric rate plan from the power company and I charge overnight when the rates are ~1.4 cents per kWh.

We really like the 3. Though my wife is eyeing the Y now... the full hatchback vs the trunk on the 3 is appealing, but we have no shortage of space for two boys and the dog at their feet in the rear seat. there's tons of room with adults making no compromise in seat position up front. the rear trunk with the hidden under-trunk and front trunk gives us as much cu-ft storage as our Yukon, which we rarely drive.

Great reliability, no service issues. much better car in terms of repairs/problems than either my 2008 or 2011 BMW 3-Series that I previously owned.

Batteries are warrantied for "8 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period." There are many batteries on the road with over 300,000 miles and some over 400,000 miles with greater than 70% retention on their life. Musk has stated that the goal is to be able to replace a model 3 pack with a new one for $5,000 when they EOL.

Cybertruck will replace our Yukon in a couple years. It's a better mouse trap, really. Total Cost of Ownership less than the high end Honda Accord over 5 years as well.

As for 3 vs Y? road height and trunk vs hatch. thats the biggest difference for practical purposes. Good luck and enjoy!

Wolf424

Agree to disagree. 20-25% increase in price for AWD and about 80-90 miles more range. Just depends on the person...for you that might make sense. Not so much for others.

Rooster435

What are insurance costs? Higher than a “normal” car or about the same? I’ve currently got a Chevy Volt but looking for something with a little better electric range.

Wolf424

It’s comparable to a vehicle of equivalent value. Obviously it depends on where you live and your demographic, but I’m not paying more than “normal”.

If you get the performance model, I’d expect it to be a little higher.

Trip7

I have a Model S. Would buy a Model Y in a heartbeat. Love the car and the Company. Would not touch the stock with a 10 ft pole at current prices. I'll look into buying Tesla stock when the price drops to around $215

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NoDeskJob

which version of Model S?
im eyeing that Model S Plaid on the upgrade to Capt (one day). 😁👍

I have the Mod 3 Performance. I can barely imagine 1 whole second shaved off the 0-60. 🤯🤯