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Old 02-28-2021, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
the two biggest hiring years since the 2014 hiring began were 2016 with 1,197 new hires, and 2017 with 1,060 new hires. I don't think they had the 6th E period sim back then.

So with E period sims now avail, I guess 1,200+ is technically doable.
Isn't the E period just a give for us affected pilots? I don't think that was a permanent change to the PWA in regards to new hires. Unless that's something we give up in the future. Surely is nice to finally see the company admit we need our pilots back like yesterday. We all knew this was going to happen, you could have predicted this a mile away. And that accounts for even a moderate rebound in travel and we pretty much have to hire. If we have a full rebound.... Well.... Then it will sure be crazy times. Lots of green slips I reckon.
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Old 02-28-2021, 08:23 AM
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Old 02-28-2021, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94 View Post
Isn't the E period just a give for us affected pilots? I don't think that was a permanent change to the PWA in regards to new hires. Unless that's something we give up in the future. Surely is nice to finally see the company admit we need our pilots back like yesterday. We all knew this was going to happen, you could have predicted this a mile away. And that accounts for even a moderate rebound in travel and we pretty much have to hire. If we have a full rebound.... Well.... Then it will sure be crazy times. Lots of green slips I reckon.
i think new hires could always be placed in a E period sim. I’m 99% sure I had E sim periods when I was in NH training
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
the two biggest hiring years since the 2014 hiring began were 2016 with 1,197 new hires, and 2017 with 1,060 new hires. I don't think they had the 6th E period sim back then.

So with E period sims now avail, I guess 1,200+ is technically doable.
AA hires were 939 in 2018, as a point of reference.
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Old 02-28-2021, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
i think new hires could always be placed in a E period sim. I’m 99% sure I had E sim periods when I was in NH training
Huh interesting. Can't remember for me because day I was going to sims the bid got cancelled. I thought I remember they said a few weeks ago the E periods they could train 135/month and possibly more if more sims pop up. I don't feel it's entirely unrealistic to get 1700 by end of October.. Especially those who won't need a full course and going back to their old fleets.
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West coast based pilots can be put in E sims now for CQ. I’ve done double E periods in the past and in fact every CQ pairing for April in my category is double E periods.

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Old 02-28-2021, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94 View Post
Huh interesting. Can't remember for me because day I was going to sims the bid got cancelled. I thought I remember they said a few weeks ago the E periods they could train 135/month and possibly more if more sims pop up. I don't feel it's entirely unrealistic to get 1700 by end of October.. Especially those who won't need a full course and going back to their old fleets.

I went back and found my NH training award, I had multiple E period sims on it.
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I went back and found my NH training award, I had multiple E period sims on it.
There used to be only five periods a day, E's being somewhat in the middle of the night. And for initial qual only new hires could be assigned them. In 2018 or thereabouts, the sim schedule was revamped to six periods in a day. E periods moved up to an earlier time. F is the new E, a 0100 brief time. Assigned piltots can be sent to E's, so long as they are out of the building by 1 am. Which essentially limits them to a two hour sim. The requal sim syllabuses have been revamped to allow for this, essentially doubles the length of the course--same total time in sim.

I have zero contractural reference for any of that, just how it was explained to us in my dept
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Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
There used to be only five periods a day, E's being somewhat in the middle of the night. And for initial qual only new hires could be assigned them. In 2018 or thereabouts, the sim schedule was revamped to six periods in a day. E periods moved up to an earlier time. F is the new E, a 0100 brief time. Assigned piltots can be sent to E's, so long as they are out of the building by 1 am. Which essentially limits them to a two hour sim. The requal sim syllabuses have been revamped to allow for this, essentially doubles the length of the course--same total time in sim.

I have zero contractural reference for any of that, just how it was explained to us in my dept
I thought affected pilots could use the full E period 8pm brief, sim 10pm-2am +debrief
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Not how I understood it. I could have misunderstood, I haven't done any of those events yet
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