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03-11-2021, 03:40 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by Jodaaddy
Set Condition Min Credit can work, but the number that can be awarded this can be limited arbitrarily by the PBS Administrator. It could be even denied to the most senior bidder...
I agree with your first sentence if you remove the word “arbitrarily”. I strongly disagree with your second sentence.
The Avg Line Value is just that... the AVG of all of the values of awarded lines (that must be within the LCW). By definition, pilots asking for MAX CREDIT or MIN CREDIT can each be no greater than one half of the bidders. In my experience (7ER), there were FAR MORE pilots asking for MAX CREDIT than MIN. I am sure this might vary by category. I do not think SET CONDITION MIN CREDIT could be denied to the most senior bidder.
Maybe a PBS guru will see this and weigh in.
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03-11-2021, 04:31 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by Jiggawatt
So my priorities have changed and I’m interested in flying as few days per month as possible. My only experience is on 717 (while junior) and it was somewhat challenging to get much above a daily 5:15 average, which meant it was hard to get less than 15 days per month.
Anyone have opinions on best fleet to minimize days worked per month? I’m thinking both in terms of average daily hours to minimize PBS days awarded, and ability to drop/swap. I realize these factors will change coming out of the pandemic, but just looking for historic insight. I’m targeting west coast bases.
Thanks in advance!
Anyone have opinions on best fleet to minimize days worked per month? I’m thinking both in terms of average daily hours to minimize PBS days awarded, and ability to drop/swap. I realize these factors will change coming out of the pandemic, but just looking for historic insight. I’m targeting west coast bases.
Thanks in advance!
Consider reserve of you can swing LC from home.
If time is more important than money, WB B gives plenty of opportunity for dropping trips via PCS or P2P board. Credit trips let the WS/P2P whxrxs pick up time, so you can drop more.
If you can't escape domestic, look for the fattest category (least GS flying) and bid that, so you can drop trips when needed.
03-11-2021, 04:50 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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I agree with your first sentence if you remove the word “arbitrarily”. I strongly disagree with your second sentence.
The Avg Line Value is just that... the AVG of all of the values of awarded lines (that must be within the LCW). By definition, pilots asking for MAX CREDIT or MIN CREDIT can each be no greater than one half of the bidders. In my experience (7ER), there were FAR MORE pilots asking for MAX CREDIT than MIN. I am sure this might vary by category. I do not think SET CONDITION MIN CREDIT could be denied to the most senior bidder.
Maybe a PBS guru will see this and weigh in.
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I agree with your first sentence if you remove the word “arbitrarily”. I strongly disagree with your second sentence.
The Avg Line Value is just that... the AVG of all of the values of awarded lines (that must be within the LCW). By definition, pilots asking for MAX CREDIT or MIN CREDIT can each be no greater than one half of the bidders. In my experience (7ER), there were FAR MORE pilots asking for MAX CREDIT than MIN. I am sure this might vary by category. I do not think SET CONDITION MIN CREDIT could be denied to the most senior bidder.
Maybe a PBS guru will see this and weigh in.
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It has happened when a category was very short (like the 717B was in 2016) in the PBS remarks showed the set condition min credit was administratively set to zero. Happened for months.
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03-11-2021, 05:20 PM
#14
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Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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I agree with your first sentence if you remove the word “arbitrarily”. I strongly disagree with your second sentence.
The Avg Line Value is just that... the AVG of all of the values of awarded lines (that must be within the LCW). By definition, pilots asking for MAX CREDIT or MIN CREDIT can each be no greater than one half of the bidders. In my experience (7ER), there were FAR MORE pilots asking for MAX CREDIT than MIN. I am sure this might vary by category. I do not think SET CONDITION MIN CREDIT could be denied to the most senior bidder.
Maybe a PBS guru will see this and weigh in.
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I agree with your first sentence if you remove the word “arbitrarily”. I strongly disagree with your second sentence.
The Avg Line Value is just that... the AVG of all of the values of awarded lines (that must be within the LCW). By definition, pilots asking for MAX CREDIT or MIN CREDIT can each be no greater than one half of the bidders. In my experience (7ER), there were FAR MORE pilots asking for MAX CREDIT than MIN. I am sure this might vary by category. I do not think SET CONDITION MIN CREDIT could be denied to the most senior bidder.
Maybe a PBS guru will see this and weigh in.
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03-12-2021, 05:41 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by Tadertot
Start with “set min credit” in PBS.
Keep what you’re awarded on the low side of the window.
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Keep what you’re awarded on the low side of the window.
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03-12-2021, 06:41 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Never use min or max credit. All you are doing is narrowing your personal line construction window. Efficiency is what you covet. Use award parring average daily credit. Start high and work down. 6 hrs, 5:45, 5:30...
There are plenty of circumstances where min/max credit work and efficiency is not what you want. I’ve seen some nasty long-day uncommutable 320 4-days with high ADG.
For those waiting on 7ER TOE, max credit makes a lot of sense vs high ADGs.
High ADG 1-days don’t always make sense for commuters if you can’t bunch them together.
03-12-2021, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
One man’s trash is another man’s Miata...
There are plenty of circumstances where min/max credit work and efficiency is not what you want. I’ve seen some nasty long-day uncommutable 320 4-days with high ADG.
For those waiting on 7ER TOE, max credit makes a lot of sense vs high ADGs.
High ADG 1-days don’t always make sense for commuters if you can’t bunch them together.
There are plenty of circumstances where min/max credit work and efficiency is not what you want. I’ve seen some nasty long-day uncommutable 320 4-days with high ADG.
For those waiting on 7ER TOE, max credit makes a lot of sense vs high ADGs.
High ADG 1-days don’t always make sense for commuters if you can’t bunch them together.
Last edited by notEnuf; 03-12-2021 at 07:14 AM.
03-12-2021, 07:25 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by Jodaaddy
The PBS Administrator can limit the number of min or max credit bidders to zero at his discretion. This is a fact, and you can read the PBS Reference Handbook to confirm. There are other tools he can use like setting the threshold value in order to meet the mandate of having an actual ALV +/- 1 hour of the published ALV.
I stand corrected. After many years of using MIN CREDIT every month, I never had it denied.
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