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Old 04-17-2021, 10:31 AM   #71  
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Couldn’t agree more. I always get a kick when people say “boxes don’t *****” as if there are riots breaking out every day in airliners across the country. And as if we as pilots have to deal with annoying people on a regular basis. We don’t. Flight attendants do (God bless them). And boxes don’t *****, but passengers don’t usually catch on fire either.
maybe they weren’t talking about passengers?

and, while boxes don’t complain, some of them do require payment if they don’t arrive on time. Thus, making reserve a little different than pax airlines.
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Old 04-17-2021, 10:52 AM   #72  
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Couldn’t agree more. I always get a kick when people say “boxes don’t *****” as if there are riots breaking out every day in airliners across the country. And as if we as pilots have to deal with annoying people on a regular basis. We don’t. Flight attendants do (God bless them). And boxes don’t *****, but passengers don’t usually catch on fire either.
The only toxic passengers I know that are dangerous and flammable are terrorists.
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Ed was also saying the same about bringing affected pilots back and in a matter of weeks it went from 400 to everyone to 350 unbid positions. With how every holiday has gone and so many unbid spots how can we not hire this year? We just gonna go on cancelling flights or giving up market share next holiday season and spring break?
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If they have decided to start hiring, but don't know when... they can't realize they are behind the power curve.
I think there’s a bit of a bottleneck in our training pipeline to clear first. The present bid is only going to amp that up.
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Ed was also saying the same about bringing affected pilots back and in a matter of weeks it went from 400 to everyone to 350 unbid positions. With how every holiday has gone and so many unbid spots how can we not hire this year? We just gonna go on cancelling flights or giving up market share next holiday season and spring break?
Giving up market share is the name of the game. If the Nps scores dip something magic will happen.
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I think there’s a bit of a bottleneck in our training pipeline to clear first. The present bid is only going to amp that up.
Pay those 1am sims double. That'll clear it up quickly.
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Pay those 1am sims double. That'll clear it up quickly.
I’d click the yes box for that. Then we would be at about min day finally for training
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“What’s the max reading on those things?”

”STFU Toptunov!!”
The official position of the State is that a global nuclear catastrophe is not possible in the Soviet Union. They told the Germans that the highest detected level of radiation was 2,000 roentgen. They gave them the propaganda number.

Thankfully, I feel like our airline was more in the 3 Mile Island camp than Chernobyl. Of course...what are the cost of lies?
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Sure. I have given this serious thought. Concerning wide bodies, I think that if one’s goal is to be a wide body captain then one should put every ounce of strength into getting on at FedEx and/or UPS. Pay rates are just slightly lower but 65% of the airline is maxed out on the wide body pay scale. The retirement and contract/work rules are fabulous, and boxes don’t *****. I’m not going to sit back and say that Delta being light on wide bodies is no big deal. It has been a topic with my wife repeatedly that my lifetime earnings would be much higher at FedEx. If Delta was choice 1a for me, then FedEx was 1b and wide bodies and contract are the reason.

I’d say the rest of it boils down to being from Georgia/Atlanta, not wanting to live in Memphis, not wanting to commute (even if it is regularly a DDH), not wanting to go on trips longer than four or five days...and profit sharing when it’s a thing. I’d also like to say culture is important to me, but this is APC so that’s not allowed. If it were allowed, I’d say that Delta is clearly the best on this front.

EDIT: Now that I look at your question again of DAL vs the other two- AAL seems poorly run, and has serious issues in its pilot group (although the past year seems to have galvanized them). For United it comes once again to not wanting to commute, nor live in one of their high COL domiciles.
Good summary, and honest. Some of your points are similar to what I thought about as well when a decision had to be made. If you need a perspective on FedEx over Delta, shoot me a PM.

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