WB Reserve
#21
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,545
#23
Dunno - but whenever I see a FA (male or female) who talks about working 120+ hours a month, red eye turns and lots of flying... I think to myself, "yep, you sure look like it. I can see the fatigue taking its toll."
#24
Speaking of widebody reserve.... it appears the optimizer has hit the widebodies.
Looking at some trips on ATL330 for next month. Trips down to Chile and Argentina. 9-10 hours down, 13-14 hour ground time (all during the daylight hours) and 9-10 hours back. Is this normal for the widebodies at all and the picture of things to come? Because this might be the kind of trip a junior widebody reserve pilot will getting a lot of.
Looking at some trips on ATL330 for next month. Trips down to Chile and Argentina. 9-10 hours down, 13-14 hour ground time (all during the daylight hours) and 9-10 hours back. Is this normal for the widebodies at all and the picture of things to come? Because this might be the kind of trip a junior widebody reserve pilot will getting a lot of.
#25
Any thoughts on what a junior 765, 330, or 350 F/O would typically credit per month? I'm basing math on the reserve guarantee floor of 72 hours per month, but I see lineholders often completing schedules just over 65 hours. As a mid-seniority narrowbody F/O living in base I've consistently averaged 94 hours of credit per month working 15 days, including roughly 6 hours of premium pay per month. I'm curious what a realistic full year comparison would be.
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Capt
Posts: 2,023
Any thoughts on what a junior 765, 330, or 350 F/O would typically credit per month? I'm basing math on the reserve guarantee floor of 72 hours per month, but I see lineholders often completing schedules just over 65 hours. As a mid-seniority narrowbody F/O living in base I've consistently averaged 94 hours of credit per month working 15 days, including roughly 6 hours of premium pay per month. I'm curious what a realistic full year comparison would be.
#27
Thanks for the data point. I can justify some pay reduction to try the widebody QOL, especially if reserve in base is possible. The math tells me that commuting for a widebody spot probably isn't worth it.
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Hoping for any position
Posts: 2,504
I was doing the same analysis. I credit much less than you on the NB though so 65-67 but at higher rate is still a pay raise for me. The kicker is 5 additional nights in my bed due to commutability. So pick up 1 3 day trip with 16 hours and you’re at 81-83 WB B rate. Plus still more nights at home than NB. It’s a no brainer for me. Even commuting to reserve sounds pretty appealing at this point.
#29
I was doing the same analysis. I credit much less than you on the NB though so 65-67 but at higher rate is still a pay raise for me. The kicker is 5 additional nights in my bed due to commutability. So pick up 1 3 day trip with 16 hours and you’re at 81-83 WB B rate. Plus still more nights at home than NB. It’s a no brainer for me. Even commuting to reserve sounds pretty appealing at this point.
#30
Any thoughts on what a junior 765, 330, or 350 F/O would typically credit per month? I'm basing math on the reserve guarantee floor of 72 hours per month, but I see lineholders often completing schedules just over 65 hours. As a mid-seniority narrowbody F/O living in base I've consistently averaged 94 hours of credit per month working 15 days, including roughly 6 hours of premium pay per month. I'm curious what a realistic full year comparison would be.
What's your view on the pay? Do you need/want the total dollars? What's a day off worth to you? Even at 68 hours for 12 days, your pay per day of work is more than working 15 days for 94 hours on a NB. International trips sign in later in the day and sign out fairly early in the afternoon/evening, also a plus.
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