BigGuns

How does a 3 day GS that starts on April 1 pay? On April or May time card or both?

Falcon20

I think you meant 1 May. If that is the case it’s both. Block flown on the 1st pays in April and the rest pays in May.

theUpsideDown

but the extra credit for the GS all falls on last day right? Im asking i never pickup.

DWC CAP10 USAF

Yes....credit always goes on last day of the rotation, so in this case it would be in the May paycheck

SparkySmith

Just to be clear, you’ll get green slip pay on your time card for both months, April and May, assuming you meet the green slip trigger for both months. You’ll get green slip pay on April for the flying you do on 1 May, then you’ll get the remainder of the green slip pay on your May time card. So you’ll get paid double for one day of work in April and double for two days of work in May.

The previous poster is correct that any credit in the trip will be paid out on the last day, but that’s different than the green slip pay. You’ll get paid double for that credit in May.

If I was the only one confused by the replies then please mock this post.


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Nantonaku

No, you aren't the only one confused. I'm still confused(and not afraid to show my ignorance of the contract) on what "credit" is? And what does it mean when they say something like single pay no credit? Under a different contract I knew fairly well credit always meant what you were paid. Here it seems to mean added credit to the trip above block? But something like "single pay no credit" means something totally different?

SparkySmith

I get frustrated with the various ways that “credit” is used. In the “pay no credit” sense, it means greenslip credit. In order to get GS pay, you have to have credit equal to or greater than the GS trigger. So when they say you get no credit for a given activity, it means that activity didn’t help you get over the GS trigger. I believe the trigger lowered with one of the recent LOAs, which is a real win.

In the “credit gets paid on the last day” sense, it means non-block pay time in a trip. Two totally different meanings here. Using the same word for both cannot but be confusing.

Does that make it any clearer?


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GogglesPisano

And don't get me started on, "Break in Duty."

Denny Crane

It is very confusing. You get “credit” for any trip flown on your line that is NOT a greenslip. White slips and awarded trips via PBS are credit. To get full GS pay for a GS your credit has to meet the GS trigger. When talking about what applies to the GS trigger, all the trips described above count towards the trigger AS WELL AS Vacation Pay. Vacation Pay is not listed as “Credit” on one’s time card but it does count towards the GS trigger. How much credit you have in a month determines your Max pickup (or how much you can white slip). The amount of credit you have for the determines whether you can deposit hours to the Full Service Bank or pay back negative bank.

When something is classified as “pay, no credit” it just means you will be paid for that amount. You cannot put it in the Full Service Bank or pay back a negative bank with it.

When talking about a specific trip, there are many kinds of “credit.” Deadhead, Trip, ADG etc. Trip credit is always applied on the last day of the trip. Deadhead is paid on the day flown. I should know but am not sure about ADG.

Denny

m3113n1a1

Very helpful explanation! If you ever get bored during your early retirement, maybe you can come back and mentor new hires