5 April Capt staffing math
04-04-2021, 09:25 AM
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How many mandatory retirements in the next 18 months, outside of the remaining VEOP guys? The math hasn’t added up since the day they published the MOAD. Or stopped hiring. Or let go 1800+ in the VEOP. I’ve given up trying to make sense of this. I just try to get the least sh1tty schedule I can and pickup a few extra $$ when it’s convenient.
04-04-2021, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
How many mandatory retirements in the next 18 months, outside of the remaining VEOP guys? The math hasn’t added up since the day they published the MOAD. Or stopped hiring. Or let go 1800+ in the VEOP. I’ve given up trying to make sense of this. I just try to get the least sh1tty schedule I can and pickup a few extra $$ when it’s convenient.
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04-04-2021, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Company is usually over conservative with their projections. Summer 2022 will likely be 90-95% of 2019 as international will bounce back quicker than expected with less competitors due bankruptcies(ie Norwegian). Due to the retirement of several 767s Delta has a hole in their Widebody network and must bring on more Widebodies in the near term. I think redline operations will be part of the new normal
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04-04-2021, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
How many mandatory retirements in the next 18 months, outside of the remaining VEOP guys? The math hasn’t added up since the day they published the MOAD. Or stopped hiring. Or let go 1800+ in the VEOP. I’ve given up trying to make sense of this. I just try to get the least sh1tty schedule I can and pickup a few extra $$ when it’s convenient.
04-04-2021, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
How many mandatory retirements in the next 18 months, outside of the remaining VEOP guys? The math hasn’t added up since the day they published the MOAD. Or stopped hiring. Or let go 1800+ in the VEOP. I’ve given up trying to make sense of this. I just try to get the least sh1tty schedule I can and pickup a few extra $$ when it’s convenient.
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04-04-2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
If the company plan is to have ~80% of summer 2019 operation during the summer of 2022.. (JL at Stan mtg)
The 5 Apr AE is claiming to staff the operation for summer 2022.. (BS AE memo)
During VEOP about 2000 dudes hanged up the gloves, vast majority were WB Captains.. (ish as l recall)
The 5 Apr AE has 580 WB Captain positions..
I need serious help with my math.. Tennessee public education system fails me again. Please help me to figure out what I am missing.
Did JL just talk about “domestic only at 80%, international still in the toilet”?? Anybody in the know?
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The 5 Apr AE is claiming to staff the operation for summer 2022.. (BS AE memo)
During VEOP about 2000 dudes hanged up the gloves, vast majority were WB Captains.. (ish as l recall)
The 5 Apr AE has 580 WB Captain positions..
I need serious help with my math.. Tennessee public education system fails me again. Please help me to figure out what I am missing.
Did JL just talk about “domestic only at 80%, international still in the toilet”?? Anybody in the know?
Thx!
Happy Easter!!
04-05-2021, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Recently read an article about 787 being very efficient on high density domestic routes like LA - NYC. Just sayin' maybe we bring back the domestic/international category ala 7ER.
Maybe you just meant more domestic in the "international" fleets. In that case its possible for sure. But separate bid groups, reserves, displacements, etc? No way, never again.
04-05-2021, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I don't think there will ever be 2 separate categories for that ever again. And while I get why feather bedding pilots would want that, it just ain't happeing.
Maybe you just meant more domestic in the "international" fleets. In that case its possible for sure. But separate bid groups, reserves, displacements, etc? No way, never again.
Maybe you just meant more domestic in the "international" fleets. In that case its possible for sure. But separate bid groups, reserves, displacements, etc? No way, never again.
04-05-2021, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
You are right about the separate categories. There's no way management would limit the flexibility of the pilot group. If anything they would have us fly more derivatives like throwing the 765 in with the 7ER. But that will never happen either because the 7ER would get a free pay bump. I meant a dual operation with the 787 kind of like the bastardized trips the 7ER has. Domestic day end on the coast, international 3day, domestic day to finish. A true 6 day crap trip gives you the worst of both worlds.
Plus the over hyped and operationally pejorative "widebodies to MCO" rhetoric misses the RASM/CASM reality of certain markets sometimes. Especially the highly competitive transcon routes where ULCC's now throw dimes on the dollar lay flat seats on the market and will soon do so for trans Atlantic. We have to have the ability to seat dump on the seat dumpers at will.
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