Nyc 320a
04-14-2021, 04:44 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by TED74
What’s the length of the AE have to do with it? Freeze starts immediately, even if you don’t train all year.
But you are right, there would only be another ~6 months after PS ends before you could bid off if you can’t switch base before then.
04-14-2021, 04:50 AM
#33
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When gauging the advantage to being based in NYC, juniormost base is huge, but so is base size. I've heard NYC is Delta's second-largest base. How many captains and first officers are based there? AAL has 1216 for reference, all types included.
04-14-2021, 05:05 AM
#34
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I have commuted to NY for 20 years from MCO. On the 7ER... with the only flying out of JFK it wasn't bad. - no sarcasm - I rarely had to go the night before, but I kept a crashpad just because the winters can result in no hotels being available and I don't sleep in lounge chairs. I left that kind of lifestyle behind in college. That was pre ChinaFlu.
04-14-2021, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
With PS commuting coming to an end 1 Nov 22, it could be that a bidder only gets 6 months of benefit if trained at the back end of the window.
But you are right, there would only be another ~6 months after PS ends before you could bid off if you can’t switch base before then.
But you are right, there would only be another ~6 months after PS ends before you could bid off if you can’t switch base before then.
04-14-2021, 05:31 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
There are always more positions filled than what is posted, especially on an epic bid like this. There will be a lot of extra “contingent vacancies” from the cascade of senior openings as people move up/on. As in, a LOT. There will probably be positions filled on nearly every single position across every base, despite a lack of posted vacancies. (For example, there are 0 ATL320B posted, there will be 30-40 awarded, I’ll bet)
I cannot overemphasize enough to bid what you want, regardless of the AE Memo. Not only will you not get what you don’t ask for, someone else probably will.
it’s going to be a helluva ride. Mother of all MOAB’s. I suspect the biggest bid any of us will ever see. 1000 A’s, 800 new captains projected. The math is undeniable.
I cannot overemphasize enough to bid what you want, regardless of the AE Memo. Not only will you not get what you don’t ask for, someone else probably will.
it’s going to be a helluva ride. Mother of all MOAB’s. I suspect the biggest bid any of us will ever see. 1000 A’s, 800 new captains projected. The math is undeniable.
04-14-2021, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
There are always more positions filled than what is posted, especially on an epic bid like this. There will be a lot of extra “contingent vacancies” from the cascade of senior openings as people move up/on. As in, a LOT. There will probably be positions filled on nearly every single position across every base, despite a lack of posted vacancies. (For example, there are 0 ATL320B posted, there will be 30-40 awarded, I’ll bet)
I cannot overemphasize enough to bid what you want, regardless of the AE Memo. Not only will you not get what you don’t ask for, someone else probably will.
it’s going to be a helluva ride. Mother of all MOAB’s. I suspect the biggest bid any of us will ever see. 1000 A’s, 800 new captains projected. The math is undeniable.
I cannot overemphasize enough to bid what you want, regardless of the AE Memo. Not only will you not get what you don’t ask for, someone else probably will.
it’s going to be a helluva ride. Mother of all MOAB’s. I suspect the biggest bid any of us will ever see. 1000 A’s, 800 new captains projected. The math is undeniable.
04-14-2021, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
One thing I've learned over the years is that these bids are never as epic as they seem and the displacement bids are never as bad as they seem.
04-14-2021, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Precisely . Folks miss out on the big picture staring at little stuff. If you're going to be super duper reserve for an extended period(probably 2017+ DOH) that's a different story but 50-80%(easily a line holder) NYC320A is 300K+ job on an airplane that's widely regarded as the easiest training program at Delta. Then you add in epic movement from retirements combined with fleet growth with the imminent arrival of the 321NEO. And folks want to talk about $40 uBers. Talk about stepping over a dollar to save a nickel.
I think you're spot on. With NYC being so commuter heavy I think the new positions on multiple fleets in DTW and SEA grab alot of folks out of NYC. Combine that with the NYC Widebody A positions freeing up alot of NB A positions in addition to the vacancies and you have all kinds of opportunities available in the Big Apple.
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I think you're spot on. With NYC being so commuter heavy I think the new positions on multiple fleets in DTW and SEA grab alot of folks out of NYC. Combine that with the NYC Widebody A positions freeing up alot of NB A positions in addition to the vacancies and you have all kinds of opportunities available in the Big Apple.
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