Covid shot and NFLY
04-18-2021, 03:01 PM
#51
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,273
Originally Posted by Bert Sampson
No idea about MGMT but my read on line wisdom at the time was that 800 would be a healthy number.
04-18-2021, 03:22 PM
#52
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,416
Originally Posted by sailingfun
Not only was the number higher than expected but the demographics were not what they hoped.
after running the MOAD and telling all of the pilots anyone over 64 MD’d would not train, it did not make sense for many in this group to bow out early.
04-19-2021, 06:53 AM
#54
Sick of whiners
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: 767 VEOP
Posts: 507
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One big issue was the unexpectedly high number of LCPs and especially LLCPs (whose VEOP departure crippled the Company’s ability to train LCP’s replacements). If the Company had metered departure dates for LCPs over a longer period, there would not be such a huge OE backlog even today, but there was no provision for that in the LOA and some fleets, esp the 767 saw a big rush for the door.
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One big issue was the unexpectedly high number of LCPs and especially LLCPs (whose VEOP departure crippled the Company’s ability to train LCP’s replacements). If the Company had metered departure dates for LCPs over a longer period, there would not be such a huge OE backlog even today, but there was no provision for that in the LOA and some fleets, esp the 767 saw a big rush for the door.
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04-19-2021, 07:01 AM
#55
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Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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One big issue was the unexpectedly high number of LCPs and especially LLCPs (whose VEOP departure crippled the Company’s ability to train LCP’s replacements). If the Company had metered departure dates for LCPs over a longer period, there would not be such a huge OE backlog even today, but there was no provision for that in the LOA and some fleets, esp the 767 saw a big rush for the door.
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One big issue was the unexpectedly high number of LCPs and especially LLCPs (whose VEOP departure crippled the Company’s ability to train LCP’s replacements). If the Company had metered departure dates for LCPs over a longer period, there would not be such a huge OE backlog even today, but there was no provision for that in the LOA and some fleets, esp the 767 saw a big rush for the door.
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04-19-2021, 10:55 AM
#56
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 6,868
Originally Posted by notEnuf
Just trying to set the record straight from Sailing's revisionist history. Tell me the benefits again. The actual benefits, not the perceived benefits.
I wouldn’t call it revisionist - although he does seem to see some things from more of a management point of view than most APC posters he also adds a lot of knowledge and generally improves the level of discourse.
I disagree on his take on the SILs. We agreed to an April rebid for SILs. They got the April rebid and did a complete 180 on the SILs.
Was the company IAW the language -Yes. Were they in line with the intent - absolutely not.
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04-20-2021, 05:43 AM
#59
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,547
Originally Posted by connollc
If a vaccine appt is scheduled for the same day as a red-eye arrival at the end of a rotation, will that trip be dropped and pay protected?
04-20-2021, 12:34 PM
#60
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,191
Originally Posted by tennisguru
If the shot + 48 hour waiting period does not interfere with a trip and does not require the use of sick or NFLY then you will be paid the extra. There is no need to drop the trip if you are getting the shot after your duty is over.
Don't think this is correct. They automatically put NFLY on your schedule for the day of the shot and the next 2 days, regardless of when your shot is that day. ....At least that is what they did for me, albeit not a red-eye, but I don't think it matters
edit...Or...you may be absolutely correct if you get the shot on your own time after said red-eye....prolly has to do with when you notify them
