Covid shot and NFLY
#31
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SIL’s for those 60 days would have had little or no impact on current training. Even if we extended the SIL program it would have had a very minor impact. It’s not likely SIL’s would have been a player at all after the cares act passed. Delta’s training load stems from two things. A very generous and over subscribed early out program. The take rate caught the company by surprise. The second thing was the complete elimination of the 777 and MD88/90 categories along with a restructuring of the 7ER category. We can debate how smart the attempt to restructure a massive part of the airlines fleet overnight was but regardless the restructuring and early out are driving 95% of the training load. Just the ER program probably resulted in over 9000 training events using 5 events per pilot removed from the top. I don’t see many posters busting the company over not restricting the early out program to a smaller number of pilots.
#32
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#33
Obviously we disagree. Was the company going to direct the CPs to chase down every pilot who had the vaccines and query them about their reactions, given an FAA mandate? The MIL leave is what it is. You get 5 years essentially to finish out your guard/reserve obligation. Most do this for the retirement, which means 60 months to do 10-12 years to get there. Easily doable but you may not be able to volunteer your first 3 years to skip being junior. This just ensured Delta would get these pilots back if they had been out a long time. BTW, how many pilots did this really affect? SILs, what's a SIL?
#34
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#35
Any pandemic related illness is fair use of sick time. If we hadn't created a specific Covid clause, the CPs would have fought to do away with the 100 hour look back because that would have created way too much work as we were thinning the CP office staff. The latest vaccine debacle is just further evidence of the uselessness of the 100 hour snoop.
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#36
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Any pandemic related illness is fair use of sick time. If we hadn't created a specific Covid clause, the CPs would have fought to do away with the 100 hour look back because that would have created way to much work as we were thinning the CP office staff. The latest vaccine debacle is just further evidence of the uselessness of the 100 hour snoop.
It didn’t all work the way we would have liked, but there were positives from the LOA, I don’t know why you are fighting that so hard.
#37
Just trying to set the record straight from Sailing's revisionist history. Tell me the benefits again. The actual benefits, not the perceived benefits.
#38
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#39
BTW are you a resident of a non-family sick leave state or in the guard/reserve? Those are the only value I saw and neither applied to me. How many pilots did this really benefit is still a valid question.
#40
Whether it was correcting “past sins” or not, it was a major improvement.